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WIBU and a snitch to report neighbour?

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DiscoJanet · 06/08/2020 23:40

Our neighbour is doing a large wraparound extension. It took a few months of back and forth with the council for them to get planning permission, but they finally did.

Building started about 5 weeks ago. It's clear that what they are building is totally not based on the plans that were approved, that our party wall surveyor agreed to, and absolutely contravenes what was approved by planning - eg a 3m high brick wall and pillar at the end where it should have been 2.2m, a vertical 30cm glass window all along the length of the 10m side return extension where it should have been a sloping roof . But it doesn't affect us so much as the neighbour on the other side, who is pretty scared to report them. She's spoken to them and they've sort of vaguely said they'd reduce the height of the brick pillar, but they are basically bullshitting and manipulating her by trying to get her to agree to the glass window. She's worried if she doesn't agree to the glass, they won't change the brick wall, which is what bothers her most.

For us, the only real impact is that our party wall agreement is based on plans which aren't being used, so could affect eg steels and load-bearing capacity. The aesthetics and loss of light etc is a bit worse but not majorly (the impact on us was already massively terrible anyway even with the approved plans tbh but nothing we can do about that.)

But we're so bloody angry that these neighbours, who moved in about a year ago, are basically making a mockery of planning law and just doing what the hell they want. What they're doing would never have got through planning.

Neighbour on other side scared to report them. Would we BU and petty if we did?

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Londongirl888 · 07/08/2020 00:24

Polpotnoodle 🤣🤣

DiscoJanet you need to speak with planning and explain pronto. They deal with chancers all the time they are not daft they just need to know

Chloemol · 07/08/2020 00:29

Report to enforcement at your planning authority. They will investigate but won’t say who reported it

Enforcement will look at agreed plans

DiscoJanet · 07/08/2020 00:31

Thanks all

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Justaboy · 07/08/2020 00:31

Yep b dob 'em in they needednt know it was you building inspecotor i'd think probaly knows its not right but breaches of party walls are quite serious. Give the council a call.

user1471528245 · 07/08/2020 00:40

You should absolutely report them, planning rules are there for a reason, a set of plans were approved as the allowable specification and anything outside of this is breaking the law, complain now if you leave it until the finish you’ll be stuck with it and they could spend years fighting for retrospective planning

howfarwevecome · 07/08/2020 00:43

I'd report them, otherwise the building works will extend even longer ... which will be annoying for all of you, no?

Make them fix it sooner rather than later.

ballsdeep · 07/08/2020 00:47

Won't they have some sort of inspection? Hopefully they'll pick it up then, although too late if already built

BobFleming · 07/08/2020 00:51

You need to report to planning enforcement and not building control.

Building control only cares if the construction is compliant with the regs. They’re not going to cross reference with the planning permission.

cakeandchampagne · 07/08/2020 02:11

Report it.

Iloveyoutothefridgeandback · 07/08/2020 02:12

Yes I would report and do so now, rather than waiting until they've finished.

But I would report on the basis of the impact to my own property. Don't get into stuff on behalf of the other neighbour- not your business, leave it to her. No good will come from getting involved in that side of things.

blurpityblurp · 07/08/2020 02:14

Report it.

(Am I the only one surprised the GinDaddy bat signal hasn’t gone off yet? Grin)

Anordinarymum · 07/08/2020 02:15

No you are not being a snitch. This could affect the value of your house. Report it before it goes too far.

PyongyangKipperbang · 07/08/2020 02:26

My sister bought a house that, it turned out during searches etc, did not have planning for an extension that had been on the house 20 years. It was granted retrospectively, we all suspect because it was easier than not doing.

Report it. ASAP. The sooner you report then the sooner it gets stopped.

agonyauntie2020 · 07/08/2020 03:03

BeeTrees
Of course you report them now, waiting until they’ve finished means more likely to apply for retrospective permission.
Protect your future house sales by reporting them and not showing the party wall was breached in sales in the future.

This.

Theterrible42s · 07/08/2020 06:54

In my experience building officers are just checking the work is compliant with building regs, they're not interested in planning compliance. When we've done building work we never had the planning officer back to do spot checks while the work was ongoing. So don't rely on them getting caught out that way - if you want to be sure it's discovered before they're finished (when they might well be successful in getting retrospective permission) then you need to report.

pilates · 07/08/2020 07:10

How strange that planning and building regs don’t liaise together but yes I would report. I’m sure they can do it in a tactful way as they do need to monitor progress along the way.

spinningaround72 · 07/08/2020 07:42

Yanbu. They are taking the piss. I reported some building works a couple of years ago. Turned out quite a few people in the local area also had, they were told to knock it down.

Redcherries · 07/08/2020 07:54

Planning and building regs are two totally separate things @pilates some building reg officers might say something to planning but they are really only there to ensure the structure is safe and compliant with the regs to stop shoddy cowboys cutting corners and to keep us safe.

I’d report, if they’re happy to go against planning and to bully the neighbours on the other side Fuck em, who wants to waste time with self entitled idiots like that.

CMMum88 · 07/08/2020 07:56

Just report it. They don't care about you to do what they are doing so dont give a stuff about them. They deserve to be reported.

Get the local media involved if the council don't do anything.

DiscoJanet · 07/08/2020 08:36

@Redcherries

Planning and building regs are two totally separate things *@pilates* some building reg officers might say something to planning but they are really only there to ensure the structure is safe and compliant with the regs to stop shoddy cowboys cutting corners and to keep us safe.

I’d report, if they’re happy to go against planning and to bully the neighbours on the other side Fuck em, who wants to waste time with self entitled idiots like that.

Yes that's kind of how we're thinking
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TheBeesKnee · 07/08/2020 08:44

Report them, cheeky fuckers.

BubblyBarbara · 07/08/2020 08:50

Though we're hoping to move at some point nearish future anyway.

You need to be careful then. Because if you do enter into a genuine dispute with the neighbour, you will need to disclose it when asked about neighbourly disputes during the sale and it could affect your likelihood to sell!

Hingeandbracket · 07/08/2020 09:10

Our local authority doesn't give a fuck and will sign anything off. Up the road they approved plans for 3 houses, developer built 4, LA doesn't care.
Nearby new housing estate the developer ripped out a hedge against permission - LA decided it wasn't in the public interest to take any enforcement action.

JuniperFather · 07/08/2020 09:12

@blurpityblurp

Report it.

(Am I the only one surprised the GinDaddy bat signal hasn’t gone off yet? Grin)

Haha I'm here.... and this is not snitching in my book.

More power to you OP you should rat on them!

AlCalavicci · 07/08/2020 09:31

I agree report it now , for you and your neighbour ( on the other side of builders ) safety , house value, and privacy .
I have seen it a few times now where people have been successful in retrospective planing permission , in one case a 15 foot single storey extension that was meant to have a flat roof had it change to 18 foot and a slopping one blocking the light to their neighbour

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