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Aibu to have told dh that he needs to stop feeding our children

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Notsurewhatsgoingon · 06/08/2020 09:07

Hi all,

Dh is feeling upset and I feel guilty.
So he does all the shopping and most of the cooking (apart from when he's at work, he cooks most evening meals, I do daytime) . He is good at it. This is what he wants to do. I have asked a few times that I take over the shopping and most of the cooking and he swaps to 'my' chores which is pretty much everything else. Partly because I feel the devision of chores is unfair but mostly because his choice of food is rubbish.

Don't get me wrong he does cook tasty meals from scratch but everything is cooked with oil, butter etc and lots of it. The ingredients are often high salt and high sugar. Instead of veg making up the bulk of the meal it's things like pie with piles of mash and a tiny spoonful of veg.
I have let it slide because quite frankly I'm exhausted and it's one less job for me. However, it's got worse and worse and I'm not prepared to sit by and watch now. By worse I mean that he is feeding the children so much sugar. When I was in charge of meals and before I met dh the children ate a very low sugar diet and lots of veg and they were not fussy at all.
My eldest has become a very fussy eater (which may be part of her asd) so for an easy life dh just let's her eat what she likes. He refuses to give her sweets as he says its not good for her yet he will feed her endless sugary food. She complains she is hungry all day despite having eaten which annoys dh so I sat him down this morning and explained that yes she is hungry because she is eating food that is high in sugar and not much else and it's not filling. As an example she had yesterday, coco pops for breakfast, a jam sandwich and crisps for lunch, sausages, chips and beans for tea, as well as some treat snacks. So while he is not sat there feeding them piles of sweets and ice-cream it is all high sugar stuff. This is where he falls down, he thinks it's proper food so it's OK. I am concerned about my childrens health.
When I did the food shopping and cooking, sugary cereals, jam, chips etc were occasional and reserved for holidays for example. But they are becoming an everyday thing.
I never use oil to cook with and I told dh this.
I am struggling to lose weight. When I'm in charge of my food (such as through the day at work) I eat lots of veg and some fruit and it's all healthy low cal stuff but then I go home to a heavy, high cal dinner. I often feel I can't then refuse to eat it, so I eat a small amount but then I'm left hungry and will snack. I'm have stated eating less during the day to compensate for my dinner.
Its the same with the children I explained to dh that when they are with me and he's at work they do not have crisps or lots of sugar. They even drink water but dh does not believe they will.

I think this stems from how he was fed because his parents will make what looks like a hearty good meal but actually broken apart it's full of sugar, high in carbs and fried in oil. They do tend to cook pizza and nuggets for our children 'because that's what kids like'. Dh and his parents call it kid food and that's what kids eat. But it's not how I was brought up and it's not my experience.

Dh is now hurt because I basically told him I'm taking back over the food and I know this is something he likes to do for our family.
So aibu and perhaps I should have let it go? How do I teach dh what is actually healthy and make him see that children will eat these foods.

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Branleuse · 06/08/2020 09:58

would it not be easier to insist on more Veg, less pie/mash rather than entirely change something he enjoys and is actually tasty
Say you want the kids to have weetabix not cocopops.

I dont think you need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

WellIWasInTheNeighbourhoo · 06/08/2020 10:02

How about taking turns to cook and also the other chores too, you clean house one week & he does laundry & visa versa?

I’m with in you on the unhealthy food, and it’s not just unhealthy it’s lazy - bet the pies, nuggets etc are all bought not homemade. It’s harder to made salads, chop up up veg & provide a range of colours on the plate. It’s also lazy just giving kids what they want (unless they are SEN) you’re setting them up for a lifetime of health problems.

Shedbuilder · 06/08/2020 10:04

You sound as if you're following a Slimming World sort of diet, which may be fine for you but isn't necessarily healthy for your children who need dairy, fats and carbs to aid their physical and neurological development. Not saying that the day's menu you cite is anything to be proud of but the low-cal, low-fat, high-fibre, veg-heavy diet you have in mind isn't necessarily a good diet for children.

Babyboomtastic · 06/08/2020 10:05

I'm totally confused. You say that you do daytime meals, and him the evening meal. So that means in your example, you gave the Coco pops, the jam sandwich and the sugary snacks, and he did the sausage beans and chips. So most of the sugary rubbish that youabre complaining about is part of your meals and not his.

And you talk about his meals all being very nice and cooked from scratch, and whilst that can apply to sausage beans and chips, it's almost the cliche easy meal, not something to be cooked from scratch (there is a place for cliche easy meals, it just doesn't fit your description)

UCAStweet · 06/08/2020 10:07

I’ve read this as your eldest isn’t your DHs and yet you expect him to manage her diet and I don’t think that’s a fair expectation.

If you want to battle her over food, as her mother, that’s totally different to her stepdad doing it and I think you need to be realistic.

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 06/08/2020 10:08

You have to find a middle ground , lying awake because your kid had a jam sandwich is a bit OTT
I thought you did the day time food anyway?
Sausage chips and beans is not the worst meal if breakfast and lunch are super healthy .

StoppinBy · 06/08/2020 10:13

That food you listed for a day is terrible as an overall picture.

My kids usually have either banana porridge or scrambled eggs for breakfast, cereal is considered a treat breakfast at our house (and coco pops would never make it in the door, my kids are already crazy enough without coco pops or fruit loops ha).

For morning snack we have fruit, lunch today was a chicken and avocado sandwich, afternoon snack we usually have something like yoghurt or cheese and capsicum slices but today I made mock pizza (toast with tomato paste and melted cheese), tea was spaghetti bol with lots of veg in it but we usually do meat/veg, dessert was home made apple pie slice, we usually don't do dessert (because I can't be bothered, not because I don't allow it lol).

Today was a lot of carbs because of the extra toast with afternoon snack and the pasta but also lots of nutrients in the fruit/veg/dairy, I would not want them to eat like your husband is feeding your children on a regular basis.

We only have water to drink in our house (milk before bed) so ours have grown up knowing nothing else.

There are no kid and adult foods in my mind, I would consider any food aversions and allow for them with your daughter though if she were picky because of ASD.

hippohector · 06/08/2020 10:17

Weetabix and a banana would have more sugar in than a bowl of Coco Pops...

A banana contains natural sugars, not processed. It also contains fibre and potassium and is much more filling than a bowl of coco pops. Weetabix, while not mega healthy, has more fibre and forfeited vitamins than Coco Pops too.

Notsurewhatsgoingon · 06/08/2020 10:17

Sorry I didn't explain myself very well. I am aware of what a healthy diet is for children. When I say oil I don't mean just cooked in oil I mean things like chips literally dripping in oil. They may as well be deep fried. Same with roast veg and potatoes you can squeeze the oil off them! That is not OK.
I do not eat low fat. I eat lots of protein and that's the bulk, I usually (pre baby) work out every day so am well aware what a healthy diet and lifestyle is. With the veg what I meant was that some meals we have contain say 2 tea spoons of veg and often non at all. Instead it's a huge piece of pie and a pile of chips as the bulk, so in my opinion in that meal veg should make up the bulk. If it was good carbs and lots of protein then that's different. My mum is a nurse who worked with dieticians for a long time so I was brought up with a very healthy balanced diet. I also work with children and part of that is to advise parents on routine and balanced diets and a healthy lifestyle. That makes it worse in a way.
My children do not eat what I eat as I'm trying to get back to my usual size, I'm normally a size 8 and quite fit as like I say I work out and compete.

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hippohector · 06/08/2020 10:18

How about the two of you sit down together and meal plan for the next 2-3 weeks and use it as a basis as a rolling menu.

Notsurewhatsgoingon · 06/08/2020 10:24

@Babyboomtastic that was his day time meals as well as evening meal as an example as he is home this week.
Normally I do day time as I'm home and it's much better.
He buys all the food so I can often be limited to what I have to cook and I will most weeks go shopping myself for additional item's.

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ChicCroissant · 06/08/2020 10:25

You sound very all or nothing OP - you could menu plan together and make up the shopping list rather than take the job off him completely! Wouldn't that be easier?

Notsurewhatsgoingon · 06/08/2020 10:26

@UCAStweet it does not matter. Why does it matter if dh is or is not dcsbiological father? Does it matter that I may not be dcs bio mother? Your being ridiculous.

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SandieCheeks · 06/08/2020 10:28

@Notsurewhatsgoingon you're totally right, and I'm sure most posters would not be happy with their children eating cocopops, jam sandwiches and pie and chips!

Also, shopping and cooking does not mean your DH gets out of cleaning and laundry Hmm

I would sit down together and do a meal plan.
Maybe you could do the food shopping and he could still cook?

A pie is fine once a week, but with homemade mash or homemade oven chips - he can spray with frylight and put them in the oven rather than fry in oil. Maybe agree for eg two types of veg other than potato with every dinner?

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 06/08/2020 10:28

Perhaps work with him to find recipes that feel like the sort of food he wants to eat but are healthier.

Fajitas can have loads of veg and be healthy yet feel like a more indulgent meal.

He could even cook a full English breakfast if he grilled the sausages and did scrambled eggs. Add mushrooms and tomatoes and wholemeal toast.

Perhaps get him to read one of the hairy dieters books for better versions of the stuff he enjoys.

melmos · 06/08/2020 10:33

OP I feel you! My dp used to be chef makes lovely meals but they are all enormous portions and super high calories. He is very slim but I would be enormous if I ate it. It comes from a good a place as my eating can be disordered/tied to my moods and its him trying to make me happy. Also the kitchen literally looks like a bombs hit it- every pot pan and utensils used he always offers to clean but I feel bad if he has cooked. So what I do it make a huge pot of minestrone, soup or veggie curry and that combined with freezer leftovers of these will make up my week day diet, and I'll add a jacket potato with salad or omlette a with salad for dinner to make sure I am getting enough protein and a healthy breakfast like yoghurt oats and berries. Then at the weekend I'll ask him to do the roast and saturday night dinner. With regards to cleaning every week I write a list of what needs doing (not clean kitchen but the steps involved ie wipe down cupboard doors) then divide up and put names next to jobs. I tend to do the daily dishwasher and washing but make him do the hoovering to even it out! Try not to worry too much lots of kids diets arent perfect and I honestly think the quality of diet affects you more as an adult in the short term (certainly true for me) so you and your dh are probably feeling the worst for it!

eatsleepread · 06/08/2020 10:36

Do you have food anxiety in general? It seems unusual to be lying awake at night in bed worrying about this, when the world has far from ended.

Notsurewhatsgoingon · 06/08/2020 10:38

Yes I think your all right I will work with him. I have spoken to him about that and he seems OK with it.
I think he's held onto it so long because it does get him out of other jobs in the home.

Just to make it clear I do not follow slimming world or any other 'diet' for that matter. I just try to eat a healthy balanced diet and have a healthy lifestyle and that's what I want for my children. I know they need fats, carbs and everything else and they do get those things. Previous to dh taking over the food, I kept a week long food diary for my eldest that was used by a paediatrician and dietician as she has health needs and they actually complimented us on how healthy and balanced it was and that's what I want to get back to.

Lying awake is very ott but as I say I am unwell at the moment and am struggling to get on top of anxiety and stress so it's just another worry added to a big pile.

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katy1213 · 06/08/2020 10:39

Would it help to buy him a cookery book? Because from the example you give, that's not cooking from scratch, it's opening packets and heating up from scratch. (I'm not convinced that the man who makes jam butties for lunch is making homemade meat pies. Really?)
Maybe draw up the menu/shopping list for the week - with Dad food once a week only. Coco Pops shouldn't be allowed in the door!
I can't believe how many people are saying this diet isn't too bad - no vegetables, minimal protein - but he's setting your children up for a future of obesity.

Notsurewhatsgoingon · 06/08/2020 10:43

@katy1213 he does cook some meals from scratch and is good at it but it's so rich and full of fatty oily, sugary ingredients. The pie example is more often yes.

I agree I feel people have lost sight of what is healthy these days.

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wingardium8 · 06/08/2020 10:48

YANBU but I would echo those pp that talk about working with him and meal planning together.

Taking it in turns sounds an absolute recipe (ha!) for disaster as the DC will simply pig out on his days and ignore your healthy veg-packed meals, safe in the knowledge that chips and pies will be on offer tomorrow.

Well done for tackling this. It’s scary how so many people have no clue about healthy eating. Fine if that’s what they want for themselves but not for growing kids Sad

Illuyanka · 06/08/2020 10:52

You just need to take over shopping? You say you are in charge of meal during the day. So, if you choose what you and kids have during the day, instead of coco pops and jam sandwich (though I don't think coco pops are that bad), at least they can have more veg during the day.

Beautiful3 · 06/08/2020 10:55

I grew up eating like this and I was an obese child. You're right to be worried.

Mulhollandmagoo · 06/08/2020 10:59

YANBU!!! You should meal plan and shop together, your husband probably doesn't know any better of that's what he ate growing up, my husband is exactly the same and it's so stressful now we have kids.

Chicken nuggets and pizza isn't horrific if it's in moderation, once or twice a week will be fine. Maybe start with one meal at a time, so next week just entirely focus on breakfast, good cereal, wholemeal toast, eggs or fruit and yogurt for example then let your husband build up his confidence from there. I do however agree with other posters who say he shouldn't just be able to cook and nothing else, you need a much fairer division of labour in your home

Ihaventgottimeforthis · 06/08/2020 11:08

Yes - meal plan and shop to list, and get the children involved too.