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To lie about having no childcare to the mortgage lender?

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Toastyapples · 02/08/2020 07:02

We have applied for a bigger mortgage with the same provider as we need to port our existing mortgage to avoid the early repayment charge. It means that we will need to remortgage that part of the mortgage at the end of next year. I'm currently on maternity leave and this hasn't been a problem as I have a letter from my employer confirming arrangements to go back on the same salary etc.
We are lying in our application by saying we will not have any childcare costs next year when I return to work. We're pushing the amount that they will lend us to the limit, not because we can't actually afford it but because the lenders don't like that my husband is self employed and will loan us far less than we can actually afford. The new monthly mortgage payment is only £50 more than we are currently paying because we have been overpaying for the last 2 years. We know exactly how much childcare will cost and have actually budgeted for a £2 an hour increase in price just in case and a loan that my husband is paying will have cleared freeing up £450 a month before we need to remortgage next year.
We've been very lucky that Covid hasn't impacted my husband and he's worked throughout and I'm NHS so my job is secure. Even in the worst case scenario, I could afford the repayments myself if my husband stopped work to stay home with DS so we do know we can afford this mortgage comfortably before anyone wants to tell me that I'm being stupid applying for a mortgage I might not be able to afford... My worry is not that we can't afford it but that we'll be penalised for obviously lying at this stage about having no childcare costs when I go back to work. We were just going to say that our parents circumstances changed so we had to choose paid for childcare instead.
Will we have problems remortgaging because of this?

OP posts:
Heartlake · 02/08/2020 10:53

I told my mortgage company I was going to settle a car loan. Then I didn't Grin

MNnicknameforCVthreads · 02/08/2020 11:28

Its mortgage fraud.

But also it’s all a bit of a farce - as per what @xxKatie9806xx said.

If you’re happy you can afford the mortgage then I would tell the story that fits getting the mortgage.

ftm202020 · 02/08/2020 11:44

When we got out mortgage we told them we have no children! We actually have 5! The mortgage was £700 cheaper than the rent we pay and we had a 30% deposit so could definitely afford it.

Bahhhhhumbug · 02/08/2020 15:13

gabsalot but wouldn't that question be part of their affordability/credit check rather than a T&C that they don't have childcare costs per se iyswim?

Bahhhhhumbug · 02/08/2020 15:18

ftm202020 Grin You could always say they were being very quiet that day and slipped your mind Grin

blubberyboo · 02/08/2020 17:47

In my experience I’m sure many folks have lied or stretched the truth on applications.
And maybe in your case that’s fine if everything goes through before you go back to work
Problem is with the housing market and conveyancing process things very often get delayed for months which means there is a very real risk your offer might run out and you will have to reapply providing a new budget, and by then your circumstances will be different and they could very well turn around and decline your new application
Also you might feel you can afford it but lenders do allow for other risk factors which you probably aren’t considering such as risk of interest rates going up.

Binswangers · 02/08/2020 18:30

Fine to do this

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/08/2020 19:20

Fine to do this

Afayk gp are doing childcare :)

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