Should we all lockdown again, infection rate is rising or should we shield the elderly and vunerable and support them financially while everyone else goes back to normality to save our economy.

[947EliseChalotte]

Covid is not going to disappear, we will be waiting years for a vaccine. How on earth are we / the economy suppose to carry on like this ?
Yabu I'm being unreasonable
Yanbu I'm being reasonable

The age risk starts increasing at 40, not 50.

We don't need to shield everyone over 40.
In any case shielding isn't mandatory. It's not being 'locked away' - but crucially it offers vulnerable people protection if they want it.

The criteria should be age (from 40) + risk factors. An affluent 55 year old in good health who lives rurally will be much lower risk than a low income 45 year old in poor health who lives in overcrowded housing in a deprived urban area.

It's no good saying "sort out remote learning" when you are WFH with two young DCs who can't just use remote learning on their own, both of whom just get worse and worse behaviour wise, one of whom has SEN, the longer they are at home.
I am over 50 and have asthma. I need the schools open and the pubs shut. I need the 20-something party people arrested. The next town to ours is threatened with a local lockdown.
We could survive a two week school bubble closure but I'd have to sign off work, they won't continue to be understanding (not that they really have been).
We couldn't survive no school at all for another term.

Nike you’ve completely misunderstood David Spiegelhalter’s work. Yes the risk of dying from this disease once you’ve caught it is roughly the same as your risk of dying in the same year but that doesn’t imply that it only kills people with 6 months to live. The majority of deaths are in people who had several years or decades of life expectancy left: they just got unlucky. The older and sicker you are the worse your odds but this is not a disease which only kills the terminally ill.

The work from the actuaries working panel quoted by a PP is accurate.

Not everywhere YET it isn't.

You have a crystal ball?

@KatherineJaneway

Not everywhere YET it isn't.

You have a crystal ball?

No more than you do, no

No lockdown ever again please.

We need schools to open in September (or next week in Scotland). If pubs being shut is needed to compensate, well worth it.

No more than you do, no

There you are then

@KatherineJaneway

No more than you do, no

There you are then

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@KatherineJaneway

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Is this gonna be like that long hard stare out in Gavin and Stacy

Maybe

Can I let you win? Had my first glass of wine in a month and just can't take it anymore

I've just had a margarita so happy to let you win 🍸

Happiness all round then. Call it a draw