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His family hate me; I can’t do this

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WhatOnEarth67 · 23/07/2020 22:30

Posted about part of this before but I’ve been crying all evening and I just need some non-biased advice. Friends tell me ‘she’s still his grandmother’ and I feel powerless.

I’ve been with my DP for two years. My MIL (I know she’s not my MIL, but for abbreviation’s sake) hates me.

She has never warmed to me, and when I got pregnant 8 months into the relationship she was awful. She went mad at me, asked me why I wasn’t on any contraceptives and said I was ruining her son’s life. At the time I thought I was having an ectopic pregnancy and I told her this, but she ignored it and carried on shouting at me.

A few months into my pregnancy she started being nice to me. And I thought maybe everything was okay. She’s always been really nice to her other DIL, loves her to bits, is always posting photos of the two of them together and saying how much she loves her and will often post photos of her saying how much she misses her. It’s great that they have this relationship but I’ve always felt secretly jealous. I had a really close relationship with my ex’s mum, and went we split we stopped contact, I miss her and I guess I just hoped for that relationship again.

Throughout my pregnancy she was fine. I had a problematic pregnancy, I’ve had major surgery so I was high risk, I was actually told I couldn’t have children due to it and had been offered IVF. I had gestational diabetes, hypertension and constant reduced movements, so I ended up having a section at 38 weeks. Being in hospital alone was hard and my baby didn’t cry and had intermittent grunting so he was on watch for sepsis and given antibiotics, he is fine, but it was still scary for me.

I had already been diagnosed with bipolar disorder five years prior, and I have been stable ever since after starting medication, with the odd bout of hypermania which only lasts a few days. But around two-three weeks after the birth I developed post-natal anxiety and OCD. I am on medication and start CBT next week. I am also under the perinatal team and have frequent medication reviews.

I’ll be honest, I’ve felt like a shit mum. The medication they put me on was highly sedative and I couldn’t wake in the night to do night feeds so my partner would do it. And when just starting it, I found it impossible to wake up. I would fall asleep while feeding my baby. Some days I slept until 12pm. I also don’t use a bib on my baby because he gets it caught on his face and struggles to get it off and tbh it heightens my anxiety so I use a Muslin. He also falls asleep on the bed with me and I cuddle him for an hour or so before putting him in his crib. I love that time with him, and he loves it too. It won’t be forever, but for now it’s special.

My MIL has been making comments constantly since I had my baby 15 weeks ago. At first she said it was ridiculous I didn’t use a bib, and when I explained she said it’s stupid, took my baby off of me and said to him ‘I don’t care what your mummy says, you’re wearing a bib with me’. Another time she walked in on my baby on the sofa, got angry about him not being in his crib, asked me why and when I replied I like him with me she stormed out and slammed the door. About half an hour later I went outside with her and the rest of her family, and tried to make an effort with DP’s stepdad. I was asking him questions about his work. She shouted at me in front of everyone telling me to stop asking him questions. I felt embarrassed and went back inside.

One morning after staying there, I didn’t wake up until 12pm because they had just doubled my dose of medication. She told my DP it was ridiculous that I was doing that.

I came off the medication after that because I agree it was ridiculous but it wasn’t intentional and the medication really was helping during the day.

She has told me that my partner is taking on most of the parenting, that I’m lucky to have him and he is too good to me. For doing simple things like getting a bottle or changing him.

Later that day, my partner went outside to speak to stepdad. She came in the room and started having a go at me for various things. Again bringing up the bib and the sofa, telling me he’s ‘not a fucking toy, he’s a baby, he needs to be in his crib’. My baby sleeps through the night and is the happiest baby you could ever meet! She then started telling me it was ridiculous that I was on medication, that I can’t parent properly doing that and that if it wasn’t for her son I wouldn’t be able to cope.

I was shaking at that point and she left the room. When my partner came back in, I told him everything and he packed up the car and we left. He told his mum she was being awful but she got defensive.

A few days later she mentioned her other son coming down from the other side of the country. He will be travelling through London on public transport on a 10 hour journey, and wants to meet my son. With my anxiety being the way it is, I said I was uncomfortable with it due to the virus. She started patronising me and telling me she will be driving him down, and that we can meet in a park. I said I will speak to DP about it as he was also uncomfortable. She then started being sarcastic about me being uncomfortable.

Her other son also messaged my DP and said ‘she’s fucking doing this on purpose’

By this point I had had enough and I told her that I was very upset with all the criticism and that I felt like a bad mum because of it. She ignored me.

My DP phoned her a couple of days later and she picked up the phone, asked if I was there, refused to talk to me and handed the phone to her DH. DH told DP I was ‘disrespectful’ and was talking to MIL like a mate and not like a grandmother. That it’s nuts that I was sleeping so much, and that I can’t be a parent doing that.

My MIL then got on the phone and asked what my problem was. I said I felt she was undermining me, and she started screaming down the phone at me and then hung up.

That night I decided to write a message to her and explain I do appreciate help, and how I was feeling, and how I felt I was treated differently to other DIL. She’s done quite a few things to say she much prefers her. Such as buying her gifts for her birthday and writing a huge post about how much she loves her, while writing ‘Happy birthday.’ To me.

She rang my DP and said I was rude, that she doesn’t want anything to do with me and doesn’t want me in the house, but DP and baby can visit. He said no.

She replied to my message telling me i was basically toxic and her son would be happier without me. And then again mentioned the bib, cot, and medication and said she had done nothing wrong but give advice.

She has been texting DP saying I am disrespectful, toxic, that the whole family hate me and want nothing to do with me, that she feels sorry for my son having to grow up with me, and how I am brainwashing my DP to be against her.

He stuck up for me again but she again told him I was forcing him to think that.

Since, the whole family including DIL have deleted me on social media. I know it’s only social media but it hurt because I know that must mean she’s been telling everyone horrible things.

She even phoned my DP’s dad to tell him despite the fact they haven’t been together for 15 years.

She told me everyone had deleted me because of something I’d posted, despite having not used Facebook for days so I didn’t know what she was talking about.

She’s now said she will arrange to see my son with DP.

It’s causing massive strain with me and DP and I feel so on my own. All of our decisions and feelings regarding her actions have been joint; but she has told him he has done nothing wrong and that she knows it is all me.

I showed my health visitor the messages and she agreed that I had been fair and diplomatic, and the way she has been acting is awful.

It’s worsening my mental health and I feel depressed and can’t stop crying.

I just don’t know what to do. I don’t want her to be around my son because I don’t want him to grow up around someone who is so awful to me but I know he has to because it’s my DP’s mum.

I’m sorry this post is so long, I just needed to get everything out. I’m so lonely and scared that she is going to do something nasty like use my mental health against me.

OP posts:
MarieIVanArkleStinks · 24/07/2020 13:21

I dont think people just dislike someone, especially if it's someone you can get to know over a period of years, is here anything that could have tainted her view of you?

Of course people 'just dislike' someone. It happens all the time; any workplace is testimony to the fact.

A MiL isn't required to like her child's partner. If she does it's a very nice bonus, but it's not a requirement. Nor is it the same relationship: an in-law doesn't have the same shared family history or the same level of family obligation. That's just the way the world works.

What any reasonable adult person should be required to do is behave with a basic level of civility no matter what their private feelings. If she can't respect OP, then that respect translates to her son's choice.

Do otherwise, and you really only have yourself to blame when your child and spouse decide there are other people with whom they prefer to spend their time.

BoomyBooms · 24/07/2020 14:20

OP I didnt want to read and run. I'm a FTM with mental health issues (long-standing but also developed PND) and I could absolutely not cope with what you have described. Of course you will have your confidence knocked and feel awful when you are being treated like that. It's abusive.

So glad your DP is sticking by you, that's really important. It's not ok for her to think DP condones her treatment of you, she has forced this into 'sides' and he needs to take yours. I would not have her seeing my baby either. Probably ever again, because what does this say about her trustworthiness or her character?

You are doing the right thing taking medication. All the sleep doesn't sound incredibly practical but tbh if it helped you to cope then it probably was worth it!

Nothing you gave described about how you treat your baby sounds in the slightest bit wrong to me. He will lov cuddles as much as you and all he needs is his happy mummy and daddy.

User43210 · 24/07/2020 15:41

@WhatOnEarth67

That bitch is crazy, like a genuine, certified psychopath.

I don't know why you're saying that your son has to see her just because she is your DPs mum, under no circumstance would my child go anywhere near my MIL if she behaved like that just once, until I got a grovelling apology and could see a change in behaviour.

I'm so pleased for you that your DP is 100% on your side (mine would be, too, it really makes all the difference!) but there's only one toxic person I'm seeing.

Stay away. For your mental health, as well as DP and DS. That would send the most together person crazy. I don't know why you've tried for this long. You need to cut her out of your life completely and it is up to her if she will decide to change her ways, she must make the effort and you must always be wary, wolf in sheep's clothing would spring to mind.

So sorry you're going through this. I hope you have a support network in place but even no support is better than that headfuck.

Canihaveafairygodmotherpls · 24/07/2020 16:11

Your dc has a right to a happy mum and dad, sadly with your mil in the picture I can only see stress and tension ahead. You sound like a wonderfully loving mother, don't let her question that. She sounds so cruel, how could she speak to anyone like that let alone a new mother. This mil has thrown everything she's got at you way before your dc was born. You have been brave and strong in trying what you could to remedy the situation. This needs to stop now, your mental health and your family needs a sanctuary away from this. To far less extreme measure I can relate, I tried all I could. It was a wasted venture. They were what they were and eventually I stopped seeking validation. It really has been their loss, ten years down the line I am so glad we created the boundaries we did. This mil poss has mental health issues of her own with her splitting behaviour. I am rooting for your own little family, you being united is the only way forward and your dp has been a champ so far. He will I imagine mourn his own loss of his Dm and what he hoped for when his dc was born. It might be helpful for him to reflect that what she's done has been an attack on your whole family not just you. She has not supported her ds in a loving way, no good could ever have come from her actions. She let you all down and will rally as many people around her toxic ways as possible to cover her nasty actions. Stay strong, you cuddle and snuggle your dc as much as you like, you have a happy baby be proud :) there is nothing more nourishing and better for his future mental health than that, he's a lucky baby to have you.

Coyoacan · 24/07/2020 16:46

Well said MarieIVanArkleStinks

My MIL, who was a lovely person, always said only gold coins are loved by everyone.

WhatOnEarth67 · 24/07/2020 22:58

Just had a long think about everything and realised I am a bloody good mum and she can absolutely fuck off.

I had a bloody horrible pregnancy and birth and was in the hospital alone for four days. I have a serious chronic illness and mental health issues yet I got through it. I went back to work (from home) six weeks postpartum and I’m the one keeping the roof over our heads. My partner only works part time but in a busy place so I wanted him to go part time so I’m not as anxious and for emotional support and also so I could work more as I earn more. Our money is ours and he is amazing so that’s not a problem. But she doesn’t see that I am literally supporting my family. My baby has so many toys, so many outfits, play mats etc because I just want to give him everything I can. That’s not me putting anyone else down at ALL. I do sensory cards with him, play him sensory videos, I took us away for a week in the country side so we could spend some quality time together. I sing to him bloody ALL DAY EVERY DAY (these nursery rhymes are killing me!) and it makes him so happy. I watch TV with him, take him on walks, am constantly cuddling and playing with him, cheering him on at tummy time, I’m the one who bathed him, I sing him to sleep, of course I feed and change him throughout the day haha. But I’m just saying I am trying my absolute best and doing all I can to make sure he is as happy and feels as safe and protected as possible. I’m doing all of this while trying to work, struggling with postpartum mental health issues, trialling a load of new medication, struggling with a long-term chronic illness which can be debilitating at times, trying to get help for CBT because I was declined on the NHS. I’m doing everything I actively can to make myself as healthy as possible for my baby so he can get the best out of me. And if that means that for a few days I sleep in late, while my DP has my baby, then so what?! If he’s happy with it then why does it matter?! My DP naps in the afternoon if he’s tired and I take on baby duties while he sleeps. So what is the difference between me getting a few extra hours in the morning to him getting a few hours in the afternoon?!

Sorry for the rant. I just wanted to GET IT OUT OF MY SYSTEM.

Ok now I can go to bed stress free! Thanks for listening.

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D4rwin · 24/07/2020 23:17

Sleep well. I'm glad you've found some clarity. It's great that you and your partner are on the same page.

Get some space from the toxic bitch. Agree to spend summer as a unit, see friends but not family, let your dp talk to her by asserting what he wants. Relax as much as you can and enjoy your time together.

It's entirely her loss.

Coyoacan · 24/07/2020 23:48

Way to go, OP.

User43210 · 25/07/2020 07:53

What you've just added is actually a huge amount of extra info.

If I was in your shoes (working FT with a PT partner) then, even if I did wake in the night, I would certainly be sending him for the feeds most of the time, depending on the next day)

Even when I have maternity leave, when my husband is on days off, we agreed he will get up in the night so I can rest as I'll be doing it when he's working. It's about who the nighttime will hinder less, surely.

You're doing absolutely amazing supporting your family especially with your other stuff going on.

Take the time for yourselves, a lot more time and energy will open up to you once you stop wasting it on bloodsuckers.

Idontgiveagriffindamn · 25/07/2020 08:26

I just wanted to say that his family sound horrible but there were some things that stood out. Why are you speaking to her on the phone and sending her messages. You need to absolutely stop that don’t engage with her at all. If she wants to see your child she can speak to her son.

You need to realise that it doesn’t matter what you say to her you’ll never have the relationship that you want (like the other DIL). In fact whatever you say will be twisted and give her ammunition.

It sounds like your partner is a good one and is sticking up for you. Let him do all the engagement with his family. Don’t send another message, have another phone call, have them on facebook. You’ll start to feel better

whattimeisitrightnow · 25/07/2020 09:22

You should be so proud of yourself for putting these boundaries in place and refusing to just roll over and take her bullying. It’s also great that your DP is on board - pleased to read that. You sound like a brilliant mum. Glad you’re back on (new) medication because that will make things easier for you and hopefully you’ll feel a bit better on them. I’d wager that you’ll cope with your mental health a lot better now that these people and the considerable amount of stress they bring are out of your lives!

NovemberRain2 · 25/07/2020 09:51

I'd cut contact, she has behaved very badly. But I can understand her concerns - her precious son has had a baby out of wedlock, only 8 months into a relationship with a woman with MH issues. MH issues not necessarily a problem but any mother would be concerned and want to know that the relationship and individuals were as stable and secure as possible. Then knowing that the mother of your baby grandchild is sleeping in until 12 is also going to be a cause for concern.

I guess I'm saying she has acted terribly, but I can kind of see why she has underlying concerns. Ultimately though, just cut contact. Sounds like your DP is supportive so that's good. Just focus on your MH and baby now.

YouJustDoYou · 25/07/2020 10:13

This is why we only see my poisonous mil once a year at Christmas.no regrets. We are now at peace.

Atadaddicted · 25/07/2020 10:19

Op
You had your baby 15 weeks ago?
Has your DP returned to work?
How are you coping along during the day?

WhatOnEarth67 · 25/07/2020 14:52

@NovemberRain2 I’m not sleeping in until 12 every day. I did for a couple of days when my new medication started because those are the side effects. I am back to normal now as I have come off it. She also wasn’t aware I had any mental health issues until after birth because I am an incredibly stable and secure person, with a good job, a nice home and I’m very calm. I was simply diagnosed with an illness when I was 20, it has never hindered me in any way and me and my DP have a lovely relationship. She also had a baby out of wedlock when she was a teen.

@Atadaddicted Yes. Yes he has returned to work but part-time is that I can also work as I earn more. And I’m coping great! It can be hard sometimes of course but I have so much support from my family and from my health visitor and perinatal team.

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merrylittleway · 25/07/2020 15:15

Wow OP you are amazing! Your MIL is a cow and not having her in your lives will help you DH and baby have a wonderful life. Concentrate on your little family of 3 and f##k his horrible family. Their loss.

StormzyInaDCup · 25/07/2020 17:55

@WhatOnEarth67 apologies, I've only read your initial post. I have EUPD, so I can relate, to a degree.

In all honesty (I've read a few of your posts now). I think she's trying to cause a manic episode, or disrupt your MH. Don't fixate on her, or this.. You have your unit, a very supportive husband and a lovely baby. She has gossip and toxicity, you win! Leave her to it, ignore it and do not continue to dicuss it.

You know yourself that it's impacting you, she's getting wgat she wants and eventually she'll break you. Stay strong, use your support and show her that you're more than capable!

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