To let neighbour really get on my nerves?

[Dotty07]

Had a thread here before about neighbour and lack of cleaning up paved shared garden after his dog and basically taking over all garden!
Things got better for a while now it’s back to normal, mostly picks up dog dirt now but enclosed back stinks of dog urine 🤢 I’m at wits end, I refuse now to clean up I don’t see why I should, I have no pets. Stopped using garden as dog roams freely. I’ve complained to Council and his Landlord and nothing changes, except I get the back lash and threats from neighbour. Am I just to picky and allowing this to get on my nerves too much? I own, he rents privately.

I would not tolerate this nor would I tolerate anybody impacting upon my legal right to use a shared garden.

However, as an owner, should you wish to sell whilst this tenant is still in occupation you would have to declare any disputes.

I think you're between a rock and a hard place here. Complain and the tenant could make your life hell or live with dog shit and no garden.

As you've already complained to the Council, there is already a paper trail of complaint, so I don't think you have anything to lose complaining again. Personally because I don't take shit (dog or otherwise from anyone) I would complain and complain until and unless my complaint was resolved. Good luck with whatever you choose!

Thank you, it’s hugely stressful and I feel a no win situation! Landlord just not interested, the Tenant in my eyes is an adult bully! And when he takes family round for a little gathering it’s like a school ground situation.

@Dotty07 complain daily, it’s the only way. From previous experience even a once a week complaint is ignored but when they have to deal with daily complaints action is taken pretty quickly

That’s what my H thinks we should do too, but the last complaints resulted in quite a nasty side come out in him. Not really wanting police involvement as it will be on any home reports. Horrible situation.

Can you fence off your section of garden? Of put a fence down the middle of it?

Unfortunately we are not able to section the garden officially due to cost with deeds etc although the has made a sitting area and a play area for the dog.

I remember your previous thread, sorry it’s still going on. Agree with PP, can you put a fence up? You can get metal gates on spikes to push into the ground, don’t know how sturdy they are but it might be enough of a deterrent?

Surely it's already set out in the deeds who owns which section of garden.

Maybe it will be very rainy over the coming months and the garden full of puddles so no-one will want to go out there anyway.

There are no specific areas that we own. Free for all. But neighbour does have the run. I’ve tried in the past to resolve but it got nasty and now it’s just miserable here. My child won’t even go out there.

Is it just you two who share the communal garden?

If so, can you just not agree informally with him to split the garden in half for the time being so that you have an area to sit/relax in, and he has an area his dog can use. Presumably that would make you both happy. You could erect a fence, but you could also just line up a run of large filled planters etc to form a barrier down the middle.

I know of a neighbour who sent their new dog to shit in nextdoors garden every day for a week. Come Monday, Mr Neighbour set off to work in city suit and stepped right in a great pile of (their) dog 's accumulated turds left on his own doorstep.

If it is a shared garden between two or more properties then why is the landlord allowing pets (particularly dogs) to be kept? It's not fair to force the neighbour(s) to have potential contact with a dog - they may be allergic, phobic etc.

I would keep complaining to the NDN's landlord or the management company that the dog is a nuisance. Maybe throw in that you will sue if the dog causes damage to your property or harms your child.

Sadly garden is shared 3 ways but myself and other neighbour can’t really use it. If I choose to sit in it then there’s a chance the dog comes out as it doesn’t come out on a lead or the neighbour most of the time. The other neighbour is elderly and I don’t think she minds about not using garden.

@Dotty07

Sadly garden is shared 3 ways but myself and other neighbour can’t really use it. If I choose to sit in it then there’s a chance the dog comes out as it doesn’t come out on a lead or the neighbour most of the time. The other neighbour is elderly and I don’t think she minds about not using garden.

Ok, then ask dog neighbour and elderly neighbour if they mind if you (temporarily - via planters/trellis etc) section off an area of around 1/3 so that you have a dog free space to use to yourself. You could section off a nice little space and put a table and chairs in it so that you can relax in the sun. Elderly neighbour doesn't seem to mind either way, dog neighbour would probably like to be able to let his dog out without you constantly bending his ear, and you get a little private space for you. It's win/win/win!

Take 2-3 and ask oldie if she wishes to join you. It sound like she's claimed a part or has he claimed the whole thing with his seating and play area.

I lived in Flats with communal grounds between 6 and we each had an unofficial section, but done fairly.

*2/3 two thirds

So I’ve asked ... he doesn’t want an unofficial spilt as it restricts the dog ... I give up! He has a seating area set up for himself, and also wants free range... cake and eat it.

Polite of you to ask the tenant but you're giving him too much power!

Perhaps ask the freehold company / leasehold company / landlord / managing agent / other resident so you can get a 2 out of 3 majority.

Surely your deeds / freehold / lease sets out the legal position on the use of the garden and whether dogs are even allowed in the building?

Also, poor dog, does it never get taken for a walk or like everybody else is it just stuck in a faeces / urine riddled garden?

I think you might have to make a decision here. Fight this one out and get it resolved so you can live there or sell up and move or just put up with it otherwise you'll just go round in circles for years.