to think not all teenagers are arseholes?

[PyongyangKipperbang]

Still up becuase I have had an absolute bastard of a day which included getting proof, not in writing sadly, that I am being managed out and getting minimal hours.

DD, 15, came down for a glass of water and said "you ok?" I said no, bugger of a day and she gave me a proper hug. Not a "teen hug" where they just about acknowledge your physical existance but touch you as little as possible, social distancing being a thing since forever for teenagers, but a proper one. And she even got a tissue for my tears.

Self indulgent nonsense from me. Sorry.

Mine are lovely. I really lucked out. My eldest was a particularly tricky child to parent right up until he hit 14 and my youngest is 15 (oldest 17) had never caused a days trouble in his life. I'm under no illusions that it could all go tits up at any second and I know I sound ridiculously smug but it does irk me when you see 'just you wait until they're teens' because I felt we did the teen years early.
When I say my eldest was tricky we are talking CAMHS and me having to seek help for myself as a result.

@HPandTheNeverEndingBedtime

1:1 the teens I work with are lovely, I've never met one who isn't. Same teens in with a supply teacher (even top set) is a different story.

^This exactly. I used to have a job that involved working 1:1 with young teens who had been suspended/excluded. Away from their peer group, they were often sweet, funny, vulnerable and scared.

When I was pregnant it was usually teenage boys who stood up to give me a seat on the tube and then held open doors, helped lift the buggy containing my twins down flights of steps if I was out on my own.

DD has just hit teens and is great, my DSC's were fine apart from the odd brief wobble. I do voluntary work with teens too who are mostly lovely.
Even my friends teen sons are mostly polite and sweet.

1:1 the teens I work with are lovely, I've never met one who isn't. Same teens in with a supply teacher (even top set) is a different story.

A (nt) teen who can behave nicely 1:1 or for certain teachers but automatically behaves badly for supply teachers or teachers other than a select few is being an arsehole though.

It's nice when they are lovely for you (1:1 or otherwise), and it's certainly easier for them to be calm and reasonable away from their peers, but I would never want to be one of those teachers who blithely says "Really? He's lovely for me!" when told about a kid's bad treatment of colleagues. Not that I'm suggesting that's what you do!

The vast majority are lovely.

Yes there's some arseholes but there's plenty of adult one of those too.

They get a bad rap half the time. Most are perfectly lovely human beings. They need a bit of help and guidance navigating things sometimes but that's par for the course.

I think in 15yr teaching I've only met maybe few I took an actual dislike to..... 3 of those are now in prison. The vast majority are lovely people.