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to ask why I would be vaccinated for measles, but not rubella?

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fadedout · 21/07/2020 21:12

Born in April 1986.

I've just had to cancel the first month of fertility treatment because I don't have immunity for Rubella. Check with the doctor and I have never received the vaccine.

Why would this be? For my age I should have received at least measles and rubella. MMR wasn't brought in until 1990 I believe.

Anyone have any knowledge on this?

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underneaththeash · 21/07/2020 22:21

If you were born in 1998 you would have had MMR. If only confers full immunity to measles, mumps and rubella in 92% of people which is why they give a second dose now.

I suspect you had the job (especially if you have immunity to measles and/or mumps) but you don’t have immunity to rubella.

dementedpixie · 21/07/2020 22:24

She was born in 1986 not 1998

dementedpixie · 21/07/2020 22:25

and her gp notes show she had the measles vaccination and no others

Purpleartichoke · 21/07/2020 22:37

It’s more likely that your rubella immunity wore off.

seven201 · 21/07/2020 22:42

@loutypips I guess they must have changed the rules as I was pregnant 2015/2016 and they wouldn't vaccinate me until after birth or while ttc. I was just being nosey really!

patientlywaitin · 21/07/2020 22:43

@seven201 I was the same as you - about 5 years ago. No jab whilst pregnant and no getting pregnant until a month had past.

I find my Drs notes very patchy but perhaps as I'v changed surgery quite often, doesn't show up what vaccines I'v had, only know as I asked my mum.

loutypips · 21/07/2020 22:50

I see that you're not supposed to have it done whilst pregnant! I definitely did - luckily everything was fine!

CathyTre · 21/07/2020 22:52

My middle son, (now aged 8) who had had all his vaccinations including mmr on schedule actually GOT rubella! It was a notifiable disease and I think when the figures came out two or three or whatever years later there are about twelve confirmed cases that year. God knows where or how he got it but there you have it, he wasn’t seriously ill at all; my understanding is that it’s mild for everyone who’s born but VERY serious for unborn babies, I might be wrong.

concernedforthefuture · 21/07/2020 22:54

MMR vaccine was used from around 1988 so you may have just missed out. Measles vaccine would've been given at around age 1. Rubella vaccine was usually given on entry to secondary school for girls only at around age 11 (with the idea being that it was in place before they were able to conceive a child).

CathyTre · 21/07/2020 22:55

The same child also managed to have bacterial meningitis and mumps before he was four too. He is the cause of my grey hair, but also, touching everything wooden on the world, has not been ill for a single day since he was three 😳🤞

DancingInDespair · 21/07/2020 22:55

I was born in the first quarter of 1986, and I had the MMR. Maybe it depends where you lived or something?

CynthiaRothrock · 21/07/2020 23:01

It happens sometimes. I get your frustration but no need to be angry. I have never had a tb jab. In my school it was given in year 8. I moved to a different county and school at the end of year 7. New school gave it out in year 7. No once checked at new school if I had had it. No one ever bothered to chase it up. Shit happens. Yes your treatment is on pause but it hasn't been stopped completely.
I had measles and rubella as a Child..... After I had had the vaccine.....

Witchend · 21/07/2020 23:04

Rubella wears off, which is why they test in each pregnancy, rather than looking at the blood test results from the first one.
Dsis was immune by blood test results in one pregnancy, but not immune in the next.

PineconeOfDoom · 21/07/2020 23:10

Rubella wears off, which is why they test in each pregnancy, rather than looking at the blood test results from the first one.

Routine rubella immunity screening ended in 2016 in England link

RedRumTheHorse · 21/07/2020 23:10

The reason you probably missed out is that some times the local health authority didn't inform GPs that individual children on their books had got a certain vaccination at school, and your GP may have expected you to have it at school so didn't chase up. In my case I have a BCG scar it isn't on my medical records that I have had a BCG injection. My GP never chased me to have a BCG vaccination though he did ensure I got Rubella.

8misskitty8 · 21/07/2020 23:17

They used to test girls at 11/12 at school for rubella immunity, even if your parents put on the form that you had been diagnosed as having had rubella when you were younger.
You stuck your hand in warm water then they ‘pricked’ your thumb to take a blood sample. (Looked and felt like a cut when I had it done ). It was horrible.
If you didn’t have immunity you then got the vaccination.
One of the girls I was at school with had to get the vaccination and the following year she was tested to check she now had immunity. So she had to get the thumb prick again. The vaccination hadn’t worked so she had it redone.

WriteronaMission · 21/07/2020 23:17

I think it definitely depended on location. I was born March 1986 and remember the jabs at school. One of them at the very least was MMR because I remember the hoopla about autism and asking my DM about it. There was a crossover though.

They didn't really follow up. I missed my TB one at school because I was away from the six pricks test. I had to have it at my GPs. My DM made sure of it.

But I did get rubella as a teen. Nobody knows how I got it but it was a mild form of it. I also got the measles as a kid 🤷

Hopefulhen · 21/07/2020 23:18

I’ve had two MMR vaccines as an adult in the last few years (not vaccinated properly as a child) and my blood serology still shows very little immunity to rubella.

steppemum · 21/07/2020 23:20

I am 53 and I had it as a 12 year old in school, so quite late.
We didn't get MMR but had separate vaccines.

Do take the time ot get it done though, one of my Mum's friends has a ddd who is profoundly disabled, and deaf and blind due to her contractign it while pregnant

ivfdreaming · 21/07/2020 23:26

I've recently completed my 5th round of IVF in 18 months - on the 5th round they asked for confirmation of my rubella immunity and I said I'll see if I can get confirmation but I'm not delaying treatment - you've let me do 4 previous egg collections and 3 previous transfers and not mentioned it!

scissy · 21/07/2020 23:28

Born early 80s. No idea if I had the MMR originally but when I was a student and needed a different jab my GP surgery looked at my notes and said "hmm, you're the age where a bunch of ppl didn't get their 2nd dose/ never had MMR" and gave me one as a precaution!

rosiejaune · 21/07/2020 23:30

You may well have been vaccinated without it being recorded. The vaccines I had at school are not on my medical records.

So what your doctor says is not that relevant. Obviously one at 3 months would be on there though, because you'd have had it in a healthcare setting.

And it may have worn off. So you may be cross with everyone for no reason at all.

SunshineOverThere · 21/07/2020 23:32

Immunity runs out too!

tobermoryisthebestwomble · 21/07/2020 23:38

Rubella immunity conferred by the vaccine is not always life long. I had all my childhood jabs, had mmr at uni in 2006 and have had to have 2 x further mmr (NHS worker) in last 5 years as my rubella tests come up as no immunity

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fadedout · 22/07/2020 08:07

@tobermoryisthebestwomble

I've never had a rubella vaccine

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