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AIBU to feel conflicted over dual nationality?

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FraughtwithGin · 18/07/2020 21:04

One of my best friends has just been granted dual nationality GB/country where she lives.
How does this work?
She is quite unhappy about having to go through the whole process (thanks Brexiteers) as she has lived in said country for over 30 years, married a citizen, bought a house etc. worked.
She is now wondering which passport to use when.
Can anyone shed any light?
Thanks.

OP posts:
SchrodingersImmigrant · 18/07/2020 21:09

What do you mean, how does it work?
How does travel work? What are you feeling conflicted about?

You are citizen of both countries and you can travel on both passports. Sometimes it's better to use one passport over the other due to international relations.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 18/07/2020 21:10

She is. I used you as an automatic thing

Shatteredconfidence · 18/07/2020 21:10

It's up to her which passport she uses and when, unless your friend's other nationality has specific rules. AFAIK (and I hold dual nationality) the UK doesn't have any specific rules around when you have to use your UK passport.

FraughtwithGin · 18/07/2020 21:10

Should correct that I am not feeling conflicted - shame we cannot edit posts or subjects.

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Splodgetastic · 18/07/2020 21:13

If you don’t travel on the UK passport I think you can’t seek UK consular assistance abroad (or as easily) and in any event I don’t think you can get that in the other country if you have Dual nationality, so it can be quite dangerous.

SkyeIsPink · 18/07/2020 21:15

You can pick which passport you use , from my experience that's how it works

I've got dual nationality. I was born in the UK and my mum was a citizen, but she was born in the Caribbean so I have citizenship from a particular country. in the past,all it meant was that I got to use the line for citizens (which was much shorter) haha.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 18/07/2020 21:17

@Splodgetastic

If you don’t travel on the UK passport I think you can’t seek UK consular assistance abroad (or as easily) and in any event I don’t think you can get that in the other country if you have Dual nationality, so it can be quite dangerous.
As far as I know that applies only when you are in a the other country where you hold citizenship.

For example UK-Morocco (just a random country, don't know if Morocco allows dual citizenship). If you travel to Montenegro on Moroccan passport and something happens, you should still get help from UK if needed. But if something happens while you are in Morocco, they won't help.

Shatteredconfidence · 18/07/2020 21:19

Government website outlines consular support available for UK nationals, inc those who hold dual nationality.

You don't need to travel on your UK passport to get consular assistance, and you aren't usually eligible for help if you are in a country you are also a citizen of.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/support-for-british-nationals-abroad-a-guide/support-for-british-nationals-abroad-summary

Sheenais · 18/07/2020 21:20

Some countries insist you enter the country on that passport. My kids are American/British, they have to enter the US on their US passports, but the UK don’t have that rule.

NightmareLoon · 18/07/2020 21:20

I have dual US-UK. I have to enter the US on the US passport, and enter the UK on the UK passport, but other than that I can use either passport.

I've only travelled to Europe since gaining dual citizenship - in Europe I used my UK passport.

OnceUponAPotato · 18/07/2020 21:20

Generally you need to use the passport of that country to enter/leave it. Other than that, it mostly depends on which passport is easier to use (eg post-Brexit the non-UK passport will probably be better within the EU). Also as previously said, depends on which country she would want to help her in a crisis as many will only help if you travel on that passport.

HoldMyLobster · 18/07/2020 21:21

Some countries require their citizens to enter on that passport, others don’t.

The US requires citizens to enter on a US passport.

The UK doesn’t care which passport it’s citizens use to enter.

We are dual US-UK.

We usually fly into the UK on UK passports as the queue is usually shorter.

We always fly into the US on US passports.

NotDonna · 18/07/2020 21:22

She can choose which passport to use when. For us, when travelling to the UK the GB one is used but when travelling to the other country, the other passport is used - as visas would be required. In Europe the GB one is used. In fact most places the GB one is used as cuts the need for visas. Sometimes a Brit citizen needs a visa but not if we use other passport. So that’s what determines our usage.

youdialwetile · 18/07/2020 21:24

You just use whichever passport you like except there are some rules.

If you have UK and USA passports, for example, and you reside in the USA then you have to travel out of the USA on your USA passport. But when you get to your destination, you can enter that country on either passport.

namechange34 · 18/07/2020 21:24

I think British passport when entering Britain, other country when entering other country. When going to third countries, would depend on Visa/FOM rules which would be wisest.

totallyyesno · 18/07/2020 21:26

I am hopefully getting an EU passport next year. Does anyone know whether I have to renew my British passport? Can I let it lapse if I want to?

SchrodingersImmigrant · 18/07/2020 21:35

Dealing with two governments is PITA though😂 A giant PITA. I am working towards dual, but actually planned dropping my original one just because of how annoying they are. You have to physically go there, everything takes for ever, god forbid if you can't go and need an embassy instead🙄 Now I have to keep it.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 18/07/2020 21:35

@totallyyesno

I am hopefully getting an EU passport next year. Does anyone know whether I have to renew my British passport? Can I let it lapse if I want to?
Like you would before. You are still a citizen
Ellmau · 19/07/2020 08:00

OF course you can let it lapse if you want. But I would keep it updated just in case you ever wanted it, because a new passport after a agap, while in a foreign country, is likely to be a massive hassle.

ArfArfBarf · 19/07/2020 08:05

I think officially you don’t have to enter the U.K. on a U.K. passport, but not all passport officials know this and we have had issues before when trying to bring ds2 in to UK before he had a UK passport and they told us we should get him one ASAP.

RainingMeatballs · 19/07/2020 08:08

At least she can keep it! I had to chose, and drop my original one to get a UK one. My country charge a hefty fee to revoke citizenship and don’t allow dual nationality. Many people just stay on ILR but mine was bad for travel and I worried about rules etc changing.

letmethinkaboutitfornow · 19/07/2020 08:34

@FraughtwithGin OP, what’s your friend problem? 😳😳😳
I have three passports! Never an issue which one to use.
Whichever is relevant to my destination. 😔😔😔
Have no issues with my nationalities and where my heart is.
Your friend sounds weird if ‘which passport to use’ is her biggest problem 🤔

Judethe0bscure · 19/07/2020 08:43

Here you go OP. All the information is here. (2 seconds google)

www.gov.uk/dual-citizenship

Or did you post purely to stir? As there was no need at all for the extra information

She is quite unhappy about having to go through the whole process (thanks Brexiteers) as she has lived in said country for over 30 years, married a citizen, bought a house etc. worked

Spinnyspiney · 19/07/2020 08:53

Whichever she likes, or which ever is easiest to get back into each country. For example if you’re American then they like you to enter on your US passport but on the return journey to U.K. you show your UK passport.
I have dual U.K./European and always have - its very handy. D.C. have 3 nationalities thanks to me and DP.
It’s pretty common. I know loads of people with 2 or 3 passports or who are entitled to 2 or 3 passports.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 19/07/2020 08:56

[quote letmethinkaboutitfornow]@FraughtwithGin OP, what’s your friend problem? 😳😳😳
I have three passports! Never an issue which one to use.
Whichever is relevant to my destination. 😔😔😔
Have no issues with my nationalities and where my heart is.
Your friend sounds weird if ‘which passport to use’ is her biggest problem 🤔[/quote]
You are being bit... Not nice for no reason. Obviously when you get new passport you will do "Hmmm. Which one should I use where? Let's have a look into it" because each passport holds different power. It also seems that OP is asking for her rather than the friend.