What do people think will make Britain great again?

[Logiclady94]

I keep coming back to this thought and I wondered what other people thought so I decided to ask the wonderful people on mumsnet for their opinions. I was reading that more jobs were lost, people are being told to return to work to save the economy, coronavirus means that people still don’t feel comfortable doing that, work/life balance needs sorting, income and taxes need rectifying. Not an opinion but you see a lot of the richer need punishing, house prices are ridiculous..

So my wondering is what are people’s thoughts genuine thoughts about what they would change with this country?

Remaining in the EU.

1. taking more personal responsibility, person by person. Consequences for not doing so such as lower priority for health treatment and far harsher absent-parent financial penalties.

2. More honesty in politics. And in personal speech.

3. Parenting classes.

4. working out that the economy -is- globally linked now. Brexit is driven by misplaced ideology, a lack of understanding how the rich/poor divide affects everyone living in the country and utter selfishness.

None of this will ever happen.

Reducing our reliance on Cheap goods from other countries and producing decent quality, decent priced things for ourselves would be good. No one needs to redecorate annually, buy new clothes for every weekend out on the lash, and have a sunny holiday annually. They are just nice to have and do, not essential

You're right. I always wonder why do we need every season new lines of clothes in the shops? Who buys all of it? I am sure not everything is sold. It's just not necessary to produce new lines of clothes for every season. It's not like it's 1920s where there was a particular fashion. We can wear anything these days and no-one will judge you for not being trendy as long as you're clean and appropriately dressed for the occasion.
No wonder the UK ships 2/3 of their waste to the pooper countries for recycling.

No wonder the UK ships 2/3 of their waste to the pooper countries for recycling.
And no matter how often it is 'recycled' it is now on this earth and will be dumped somewhere eventually. Recycling just means taking longer to reach the tip, when you are talking about fashion.

You must miss all the stuff on the news about immigration then? Where are all these professionals 'fucking off' to? Please link I'd be interested to see the stats

I don’t read the Fail and its ilk. You can google perfectly well to see tranches of the doctors and nurses we train leaving for Australia, NZ, Canada, S Africa and the US. We’re so useless we write off their student debt when they go.

And no matter how often it is 'recycled' it is now on this earth and will be dumped somewhere eventually. Recycling just means taking longer to reach the tip, when you are talking about fashion

If we produce less clothes then we won't need to recycle that much.

GetOffYourHighHorse
The maps of the Middle East that were deliberately drawn to destabilise the region and ensure that British Oil companies could exploit weak governments were done in 1923
hint Sir Captain Tom was alive then

Ever since the UK stopped being able to rip off other countries it has started declining down to a level of power more appropriate to its size and location

If we just accept that we will not be Great again
but a contented part of major trading blocs
like The EU
then life will settle down

'don’t read the Fail and its ilk. You can google perfectly well to see tranches of the doctors and nurses we train leaving for Australia, NZ, Canada, S Africa and the US. We’re so useless we write off their student debt when they go.'

'And it's ilk'

Look. We also have plenty of HCPs who have trained in other countries then come here to work. 'We're so useless', dearie me, you're a right ray of sunshine aren't you.

Greater personal ambition and responsibility for own actions. I think too many people expect the state to fix every mistake they make, whether it's giving themself crap health and then expecting the NHS to fix it, or having kids/too many kids they expect the state to pay for in benefits.

As JFK said, "Ask not what your countrycan doforyou, ask whatyou can dofor your country."

The Nazi's stole everything and killed everyone. They're still at it. We're finished.

@Mimishimi

I don't understand?

I don't think it was ever "great". People just think it was.

erenow.net/ww/nazi-germany-and-the-jews/5.php

Parliamentary reform.
We really dont need 650 MPs and 850+ in the Lords. It should be 500 MPs and 200-250 in an elected second chamber.
Move out of the Houses of Parliament to purpose built complex with IT everywhere, office & meeting spaces.
Employ all admin staff centrally & allocate to MPs to stop all the employing your spouse stuff.
Purpose built block of flats where MPs are allocated a flat if their constituency is over X distance from the house so no expenses/2nd home to deal with. No subsidised bars or restaurants.

Sensible working hours and full childcare provision to support parents in parliament.

In 100 years we'll be viewed as important as belgium or portugal.

This kind of comment exemplifies one of the problems in the UK IMO.

Things that would need to change off the top of my head:

Less reliance on consumerism and house buying to fuel the economy.

An end to how pervasive and all encompassing the insidious class system is. This would mean either having no royal family or a hugely pared down one, and also an education system which rewards everyone not mainly the privileged.

Inequality tackled.

New industries maybe in the green sector.

Funding and opportunity evenly distributed around the country.

London no longer used to launder money.

Corporations and very rich individuals no longer able to hide their money offshore.

A government that isn’t a shower of incompetent self-serving and dangerous fools.

Perhaps slightly off topic but the great refer to the larger island in the British Isles.

Really? No one has mentioned that.

@BuzzButterfly7

Greater personal ambition and responsibility for own actions. I think too many people expect the state to fix every mistake they make, whether it's giving themself crap health and then expecting the NHS to fix it, or having kids/too many kids they expect the state to pay for in benefits.

As JFK said, "Ask not what your countrycan doforyou, ask whatyou can dofor your country."

I fully agree with this. Fix yourself first and your wider community will benefit. Government should do bins and infrastructure and not play daddy

Decency and compassion would do it for me.

I dont think Britain was ever great. Nor was America. I'd rather live now than 50 years ago, when girls left school at 14 to work in dangerous factory and get married to a man who was the default boss of the household.

Data revolution, similarly to the industrial revolution. Buy off the best and the brightest off the world while they are still young and cheap. Bringing over a high school maths prodigy from the third world with their family and giving them a fantastic start here will cost as much as maintaing a couple of semi-literate locals on welfare. And you already have the worldwide outreach network for that, i.e. the British Councils. But, apparently, it is not a very popular option, because IMMIGRAYSHN.

I think less bad would be a start. Beginning with Mr Johnson being voted out by the Conservative Party and replaced by a full-time Prime Minister who tells the truth some of the time.

Get rid of the racists, improve equality and social mobility. Taxation is not punishment, it's vital to a well functioning society and we all benefit.

But all that is a country that doesn't exist, I'd like to live there though.

It will never be 'great'. 'Great Britain doesn't even mean that kind of 'great' anyway.

Maybe if they fumigated the house of commons and the city of London with some really strong cockroach spray?

I fully agree with this. Fix yourself first and your wider community will benefit. Government should do bins and infrastructure and not play daddy
If the government did as it's supposed to do and provided services such as decent housing, health and education then the other things would resolve themselves, but if you haven't been taught how to say no, how to budget etc. then you're screwed.