Child safeguarding issue

[ThisIsGonnaHurt]

If you were aware of a mother who had already had a child removed about 9 years ago, has 3 (different) children living with her now but exposed them to aggressive outbursts, vile language and a partner who beat her would you report this to safeguarding team/social services? (Similar things are part if the reason the first child was removed and there is a lot more to it but it is so specific I can't put it on here)

My friend says it's the wrong thing to do in case the chidren are removed again. Surely that makes it the right thing to do?

Yes, absolutely report.

Of course I'd report it, why wouldn't you?

Depends on how you became aware, first hand witness of violence etc yes, third hand community gossip, no.

how are these people related to your life - is this a friend? an acquaintance? Neighbour?

Regardless of previous history so if you know that the children are witnessing "aggressive outbursts, vile language and a partner who beat her " then you should report either to NSPCC, local social services or the school safeguarding lead.

Regardless of previous history so if you know that the children are witnessing "aggressive outbursts, vile language and a partner who beat her " then you should report either to NSPCC, local social services or the school safeguarding lead.

Of course you should report any concerns. If the children are at risk, they need protection. If the mother is struggling, she needs support.

Exposing children to witnessing violence, is violence and they need to be protected. I work in safeguarding and we would take this seriously.

For your safety I'd make sure the friend you have discussed this with keeps shush about you reporting/ you think of a good denial.

When it comes to safeguarding it's irrelevant surely how you know the person @GinDaddyRedux ?

Not 1st hand witness but I have photographs of injuries and voice recordings as well as messages

@ChickenFriedFudge well to me its obvious you should but 14% of people in this vote think otherwise.

Exactly what purple frames said
Ring your local safeguarding line at the council or police if you think immediate danger. These are better than nspcc
You can ring anonymously

@PurpleFrames the friend won't say anything but does disagree with it being reported.

FWIW I have already reported but the comments from my friend made me doubt myself.

I am also now worried that whilst it is supposed to me anonymous that it wont be. My child is involved also I cant say how but if he is mentioned in anyway it could only be 1 of 3 people reporting it. I know none of that matters as the most important thing is the safety of 2 little ones but I'm still quite scared

You should always report stuff if it makes you uncomfortable. There is a big misconception I’ve found that people think one report can result in children being taken away permanently. This is untrue, there is a process that has to be followed and only in the most extreme cases would a report result in police going round who would then have to witness abuse in order to remove children temporarily while the case is investigated further. Children are not taken away from their families unless it is absolutely necessary for their safety. Often it will take a few reports for anyone to go round to a house, so it’s a good idea to report anything you’ve seen as you can never know who else has or hasn’t reported. I know this from personal experience, as well as studying safeguarding cases where children have died because no one reported things they noticed.

Also it will be anonymous in that they won’t name you.

Please report it.
Children’s services will not remove children unless they are at risk, and they may be able to provide support if necessary.

Sorry didn’t see your update - you’ve done the right thing.

Well done for reporting, you did the right thing.

Thanks @Regretsy the anonymity thing definitely worries me, not being named won't keep me anonymous I don't think.

I believe the children are already under some sort of child protection order. This is unlikely to be the only report received about them but mine is a very specific complaint on top of what I have said in my OP. She still maintains her 1st child was kidnapped by SS. She us extremely unstable

Your friend is weird. Why does she think it is better for the children to live with their parents in these circumstances? I think in your shoes I'd also start worrying about her.

Thank you for your support. I know deep down its the right thing but my mind has gone into overdrive worrying about it all

@Pobblebonk i said friend for ease but it is a mutual acquaintance who is bullied by the person I reported. She is terrified of her. Also she doesn't really understand what sort of impact living in an environment like that can have on children. She is brainwashed by this person but I feel like deep down she knows i am right about this, she is scared. She trusts me but I feel like I have betrayed her, the kids come first though.

Obviously report...Wtf is wrong with you OP.

I didnt actually say in the op i hadn't. I was asking opinions. I have reported already.

I dont understand the need for nastiness regardless. Clearly not everyone agrees with you or I on this.

Me reporting has also made my child more vulnerable. Its not black and white.

I worded the OP that way as felt that if people thought I was in the wrong it would mean they would feel they could be honest whereas if I had said I had already reported people may not have been so honest.