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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To lie about his age for free admission?

592 replies

WaitForCake · 16/07/2020 10:29

It's DS's 3rd birthday in a couple of weeks. I'm taking him to an attraction.

It's free for under 3s, but adult price at 3 upwards. Money is tight, but after a tough few months between lockdown and his DF moving out after our split, I want to do something nice for him.
As there is no inherent difference in what he'll get from the experience the day before his birthday and on the day of his birthday, WIBU to just buy him a 2 year old ticket?

I can't take him the day earlier due to work (I did consider this already).

YANBU - get the 2 year old ticket
YABU - pay the adult price for him

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WaitForCake · 16/07/2020 14:16

It's not to prove I can do better but it does actually show that if people did a bit of research - what did it take me to find this on the Chessington website - 5 seconds ? that there answer is there and all this has been a storm in a teacup .

Although you say that - I've looked and said I'd be going in a couple of weeks time. That seems to be peak time so this offer won't work.

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JaniceWebster · 16/07/2020 14:17

Stop being so fucking patronising.
come on OP, no need to become rude when people just reply to your own question. You are not coming across very well.

MessAllOver · 16/07/2020 14:18

What time of day was your son born?

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 16/07/2020 14:18

The offers on cornflakes packets are a separate thing, though. Just because they publicise these offers far and wide, it's entirely their business decision to make.

They could have a deal with Kelloggs, for all we know, where they sell millions more boxes because they have the offer on them, but only a small minority end up being redeemed, so it makes business sense for them to pay £5 or £10 or whatever to the theme parks for each one actually used.

Go into most big supermarkets and they'll have loose Cadbury chocolate bars near the till for something like 60p each, but if you go to the specific aisle, you can get a pack of four of the same bars for £1. Bizarre pricing, but it still doesn't make it right if I take two of the loose ones and slip them straight in my pocket, on the grounds that I already paid £1.20 for two of the loose ones the previous week.

WaitForCake · 16/07/2020 14:19

@JaniceWebster

Stop being so fucking patronising. come on OP, no need to become rude when people just reply to your own question. You are not coming across very well.
I've been told I'm a criminal, a liar, I'm whining, I'm dishonest, I'm unmoral and will bring up my child wrong, and I have NO idea how business works.

I think people have been just as rude to me - or does that not count?

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WaitForCake · 16/07/2020 14:19

immoral*

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JaniceWebster · 16/07/2020 14:20

Cheeseislife2020
We have actually got posters looking up merlins accounts and reports. Peak mumsnet. 😂 If you’re that short of things to do, do you want to come and do my ironing ...

from someone who wasted their precious time reading and replying, oh the irony.... 😂

JaniceWebster · 16/07/2020 14:22

I've been told I'm a criminal, a liar, I'm whining, I'm dishonest, I'm unmoral

not sure why the words liar and dishonest when you write about you LYING are such a shocking concept to you...Hmm

BobbieDraper · 16/07/2020 14:23

All those "what time of day" was your son born, and the OP.

Does this apply now to every birthday. When he turns 17 and has his provision ready, will you tell him he cant have a lesson or a go in your car until after 4PM when he was born?

When he turns 18, will he be allowed to go to the pub for lunch? Or will you tell him he must wait until after 4pm

If there is a vote on your child's birthday when they become eligible to vote, do you make them wait until after the time they were born?

I'm guessing no to all. When its something good you for, their birthday starts when they wake up. When it's bad, like paying the price advertised, the birthday doesnt start until the time they were born.

I think you all need to have a week think about your morals.

ThePlantsitter · 16/07/2020 14:24

OP you have had some really rude - and really fucking patronising- replies on here, I agree.

BobbieDraper · 16/07/2020 14:24

@WaitForCake
But you are dishonest. You are going to lie to steal a service.
Or do you want to lie but not have anyone actually say the word liar? Because you have deemed it as fair and the nasty big business just has the wrong prices.

If you cant afford a service the way it is offered then dont use the service.

OneMoreLight · 16/07/2020 14:25

So does the offer cover when you want to take him?

WaitForCake · 16/07/2020 14:25

Here's a question for those who wouldn't do it:

When you had a student card, do you continue to use it whilst it was still valid despite not being a student any longer?

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Cadent · 16/07/2020 14:25

@JaniceWebster OP was justified in her response. The post from @Iamthewombat was very patronising and wasn't reply to a question.

Surely you're better than this needling?

gamerchick · 16/07/2020 14:25

Does this apply now to every birthday

It does mine. Especially as I edge closer to 50. Time of birth is important Grin

Cadent · 16/07/2020 14:26

@WaitForCake OP, they'll just say they burnt the student card the day of their last exam Grin

WaitForCake · 16/07/2020 14:27

@OneMoreLight

So does the offer cover when you want to take him?
No, unfortunately not. It's just a few days out. So the dilemma still stands.

In fact, it's even more painful considering paying £60 when it would have cost £25 for the two of us 4 days prior, let alone the £30 difference over the course of one day.

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WingingItSince1973 · 16/07/2020 14:31

Wow the amount of people who lie on here and think its OK! You're not entitled to free stuff just because you want to and its out of your price range. Do something else! Have some morals!

heidiealice · 16/07/2020 14:33

I would pay the full price as I can afford it but if I couldn't for the sake of a few day I would lie.

PlatoAteMySnozcumber · 16/07/2020 14:35

I went to somewhere that did this on the 3rd birthday of my DC- I hoped that the fact it was on the day of her actual birthday might still get the cheaper price as a birthday gesture but I was congratulated with the full older child price.

Iamthewombat · 16/07/2020 14:35

Actually I can guess how it works.

No, you can’t. Can you understand that any business, particularly one like Chessington with huge investment in plant and machinery, salaries to pay etc. needs to bring in £Xm per year just to break even? Including covering the cost of investment in new attractions, like its Sea Life centre, over a particular period of time consistent with the business case for building it.

The business looks at how it might bring in the £Xm, based on how many people it expects to get through the doors and the demographic mix of those people.

The point is, the same number of people have to deliver at least £X million of revenue between them. The only question is how the prices are structured; if one group pays less, another group must pay more.

It can charge the same for everyone, or apply differential pricing, including offers on cereal packets, but it still needs to raise £X million in revenue. So it decides what pricing structure would be most attractive to its customers. They have decided that a flat price for anyone 3 and above works best.

Charging £30 for 3+ on peak means families who are taking several older children at a weekend are also stung for smaller children.

Alternatively, having the flat price structure means that the over twelves pay less than they would have to if younger children got in half price. So it’s actually better for families with teenagers. That is clearly more attractive to the park’s target market. The family with a mix of older and younger children would pay the same even if young kids got in for less because, once more, if one age group are charged less, another age group will have to be charged more.

MessAllOver · 16/07/2020 14:35

@BobbieDraper

But technically he's NOT three whole years old until the time at which he was born. I don't see how you could argue that he is. If the criteria for the full price is that the child is 3 years old at the time of admission, he is not 3 years old if he hadn't actually been born 3 years earlier.

Do you not do the thing when you tell your children (on their birthday) "right, you're actually X years now" at the time they were born? In my case, I wasn't born until nearly midnight and my older brother used to enjoy telling me I wasn't 5, 6, 7 etc. yet so shouldn't have any cake.

Cam2020 · 16/07/2020 14:36

Get a bloody grip MN.

It's not about getting a grip. What it really comes down to is whether you're an honest person or not.

WaitForCake · 16/07/2020 14:41

@Iamthewombat Okay - does their business model make any difference to the moral dilemma?

I can still declare it's a ridiculous price structure if they think parents with small children only need to pay £25 for the rest of the year or £30 if the child is 2 years and 364 days old.

Plus have you considered that they expect a lot of admissions to bring 3 year olds in as under 3s in their business model? I'd imagine they've already factored that in.

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Greggers2017 · 16/07/2020 14:42

Just do it! I'm sure the majority of people have done in the past.
It's literally a few days not a few years.