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Surrogacy and Lupron - AIBU

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OhHolyJesus · 08/07/2020 09:21

I've been reading about Surrogacy a lot lately, I was shocked to read this.

AIBU to hope that doctors would not use non-FDA approved drugs on women who are potentially already being exploited?

Women, whether pregnant or not, with their own baby or not, are not guinea pigs!

"Astonishingly, the FDA has not approved Lupron for surrogacy. The drug is only FDA-approved to treat endometriosis and prostate cancer in men. Therefore, the use of Lupron puts surrogate mothers at risk for chronic health risks including intracranial pressure."

www.moms.com/dark-side-of-surrogacy-explained/

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GoshHashana · 08/07/2020 09:24

It's also being used to halt puberty in "gender" questioning minors.

I'm not sure when medicine turned into the Wild West...

OhHolyJesus · 08/07/2020 10:16

I saw something on Facebook today, a pod in which scientists hope to grow babies, like the lamb grown in a bag. It won't happen as a baby is grown in a woman body and you need more than just a womb...

I'm against all forms of surrogacy but if that's the future I'm not sure I won't change my position!

It's experimentation on humans!

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FannyCann · 08/07/2020 10:23

An interesting article. The author seems to slightly mix up the process of egg donation (selling) and surrogacy which is a bit confusing at times.
My understanding is that lupron is definitely part of the egg collection process (also for people having ordinary IVF, correct me if I'm wrong)
but also surrogate mothers have to take fertility drugs so that their cycle can be manipulated by the fertility doctors, so likely that also includes the use of lupron.

Is Lupron used in the UK or is it a similar drug, different trade name?
I've been doing lots of reading too, but I'm still a bit hazy on matters relating to drug regimes in IVF and surrogacy.

Anyway here is an interesting article about egg selling in the USA which mentions the use of Lupron.
Women are inveigled to sell their eggs in the USA by the promise of substantial payments and treated appallingly by the fertility industry who just want to obtain the most eggs possible with no apparent duty of care towards the woman undergoing the process.

In the UK payment for eggs is capped at £750 so there is less incentive for women to do it. However, I have looked at quoted prices on the website of one of the big IVF providers, Care Fertility. They encourage women (who are suitable) who are having IVF to "egg share" by offering substantial discounts on their treatment. £1000 for treatment instead of about £3500. I'm not sure that sort of discount should be allowed, it's not exactly in the spirit of a law capping payment at £750 is it?

mailchi.mp/cbc-network.org/im-transgender-and-i-oppose-the-medical-transition-of-children-424998

FannyCann · 08/07/2020 10:37

Here is another short article about egg donation advertising.
It is important to look at these as the Law Commission is currently drawing up plans for new laws relating to surrogacy. One of the proposals is to lift the current ban on advertising.

I, for one, do not want my daughters to be exposed to the sorts of advertisements that students in the USA are bombarded with, through Facebook and Instagram for instance.
Hard financial times are ahead and young women will be tempted by this sort of advertising to help pay their student fees, risking their own health and fertility as they do so.

The Gross Advertisement Deception of #BigFertility: eepurl.com/g6Qi6f

SerenDippitty · 08/07/2020 11:24

I saw something on Facebook today, a pod in which scientists hope to grow babies, like the lamb grown in a bag. It won't happen as a baby is grown in a woman body and you need more than just a womb...

I thought this was being researched as a way of saving very premature babies?

OhHolyJesus · 08/07/2020 11:41

Hi Seren

Here's the link, goes through to Twitter. It was a design thing rather than a science thing but it didn't look very science-based to me, mentioned surrogacy not premature babies.

mobile.twitter.com/TasteGrass/status/1278418379444019205

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