To think shopworkers want customers to wear masks?

[bravefox]

Just that really. I wear a mask when I go into shops as I suspect shopworkers want customers to, but very few other people seem to bother/care. I know some people can't wear masks, but they majority certainly could. To me it's just a politeness thing.

YANBU: Shopworkers want customers to wear masks
YABU: Shopworkers don't care

There is literally no excuse for not wearing a mask and anyone who doesn't is just plain selfish.

There are several, actually. I have two excuses and I won't be able to wear one under any circumstances. There's no point me practicing at home, or trying a thin scarf. It simply isn't possible for me, but I live alone and will still have to go to the shops to buy food. I am dreading the looks and comments I might receive from people like you if this becomes mandatory in England.

Also, you might want to rethink your recommendation for a mask that filters air breathed in but not out. I hope you're not wearing such a thing, and sending concentrated jets of your potentially diseased droplets into the faces of innocent passersby!

@Englishrosegarden

Again though, the comparison of an ordinary working person against a person with a disability does not work. I'm sure plenty of people who are unable to wear a mask for medical reasons would actually love to be free of their life limiting illness and able to work the long shifts that others do.

Just back from Tesco- 100% compliance everyone- customers and staff with masks.

Guy behind me had no mask, the store has a bin with new masks to give ro customers with no masks.

I really really don’t want this to become compulsory, as it is likely going to reduce my outings and trips into shops, thereby minimising my spend. I get terrible hay fever and if I have to wear a covering, am going to spend the entire time yanking it down to blow my nose.

This is no more than I have come to expect from the Government - they spent God knows how long telling us coverings were ineffectual and could actually increase transmission, but now they want people to wear them to get them spending. Having successfully scared people to death about Covid and what it actually means, they now can’t be seem to backtrack and admit they were overzealous. Hence the “necessity” for face coverings.

@BananaPop2020

I really really don’t want this to become compulsory, as it is likely going to reduce my outings and trips into shops, thereby minimising my spend. I get terrible hay fever and if I have to wear a covering, am going to spend the entire time yanking it down to blow my nose.

This is no more than I have come to expect from the Government - they spent God knows how long telling us coverings were ineffectual and could actually increase transmission, but now they want people to wear them to get them spending. Having successfully scared people to death about Covid and what it actually means, they now can’t be seem to backtrack and admit they were overzealous. Hence the “necessity” for face coverings.

Except a mask might actually reduce your hay fever.

[quote gotothecooler]@Englishrosegarden

Again though, the comparison of an ordinary working person against a person with a disability does not work. I'm sure plenty of people who are unable to wear a mask for medical reasons would actually love to be free of their life limiting illness and able to work the long shifts that others do. [/quote]
Very few people can’t wear masks because of medical reasons. People having lung transplants use masks all the time to reduce the risks pre and post transplant.

@CherryPavlova I doubt it, given that nothing else has to date.

‘A’ mask..... so one

How long are they supposed to be worn for?

I’m a retail manager and we rent generally bothered as people are in and out fairly quickly

But some people do have soggy bits of material covering their mouths so how effective are they?

Cherry

Very few people can’t wear masks because of medical reasons. People having lung transplants use masks all the time to reduce the risks pre and post transplant.

This is irrelevant. People are going to follow the guidelines as set out by the government and there is much more leeway in that that this kind of thinking. Your point may indeed be correct but exemptions have been made and people should not be made to feel like utter cunts for following them.....

•	children under 5 years of age
•	police constables or workers such as paramedics acting in the course of their duty 
•	staff such as drivers or checkout assistants who are physically separated, by means of, for example, screens, from passengers or customers
•	shop workers if they maintain a 2 metre distance from customers or members of the public

You may also have a reasonable excuse not to wear a face covering if, for example:
• you have a health condition or you are disabled and a face covering would be inappropriate because it would cause difficulty, pain or severe distress or anxiety or because you cannot apply a covering and wear it in the proper manner safely and consistently. Individual discretion should be applied in considering the use of face coverings for other children including, for example, children with breathing difficulties and disabled children who would struggle to wear a face covering
• you need to eat or drink
• you are taking medication
• you are communicating with someone else who relies on lip reading
• a relevant person, such as a police officer, asks you to remove your face covering

So if everyone could stop making judgments based on their own thoughts and maybe just consider we have exemptions which can be used that would actually be great. If England follow suit I would expect similar guidelines

I don't like masks either, but I'd much prefer the people who can't even keep a meter away from me to at least wear one. I'd say 50% of customers are considerate, 50% aren't/

Except a mask might actually reduce your hay fever.

It didn't help mine, it just made breathing more difficult as I was so bunged up and I had to pull it down to blow my nose

I think the point about guidelines is that of course people should follow them and nobody has said otherwise. That wasn't the question and does not necessarily correlate with the opinion of what I, or others, think they should be.

I see no reason why police officers or paramedics shouldn't usually be wearing them - they may be specific circumstances but not many. They wear them in other countries without too much trouble.
If people are behind a screen then I would count that the same as wearing masks, but perhaps they should be wearing them when they come out from behind the screen to fill shelves, or similar.

Few people take medication in public settings and the mask would only be off for moments.

The guidance, is, like most of the UK guidance, far too vague and open to misinterpretation. It allows a weak government to blame the public or groups within the wider public for their ineptitude.

If you don't want to wear a mask in public, there are often other choices. Don't go to a cinema if you can't wear a mask - watch a film on television instead. Use online shopping rather than going into a busy shop without a mask.

@PinkiOcelot I would leave my job! No air conditioning metal building regularly over 40 degrees on hot days and already sweltering and draining without wearing a face mask all day. We haven't had a single case in work through all of this, not one! I'll stay safe washing my hands and keeping my distance

It's optional in my shop. Out of 100 staff we haven't had any cases of covid.
We're sensible.
Take precautions but don't shit on people who are doing things different to you

so its mandatory in Scotland now

my Scottish colleagues tell us its hell. some people are om with it (that will be the mums netters!) and some are kicking off, refusing to wear one and actually being aggressive

retail staff need a security presence in every store. I myself have been assaulted (police called) sworn at and everything else in-between. its unfair

our company social media page is full of people complaining we should allow everyone a choice.....but if its the law we have to abide by that. I'm dreading the UK following on with this