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To think £7.90 per day for TV in hospital is ridiculous

136 replies

UltimateWednesday · 07/07/2020 17:39

How do they justify this? What "costs" does it cover? Just for freeview TV, no WiFI or cable channels.

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WaxOnFeckOff · 07/07/2020 21:32

Who pays for the running costs eg electricity?

So running costs at an average domestic rate for an average tv would be about 2-4p an hour. I'm sure the NHS wont pay domestic rates and I'm sure tv costs will be a drop in the ocean compared to the other energy costs of a hospital.

You do all realise we are talking about sick and dying people here?

There aren't many folk looking to move into hospital for a cheap all inclusive holiday. For every couple of hours of tv paid for, the patient probably doesn't get peace to enjoy it, A: because they are ill and B: because they may be getting treatment or tests in the middle.

You probably cost the NHS more when you go to A&E unnecessarily or get a GP appointment for something you could get at a chemist or just by not turning up for an appointment.

I bet half the folk griping would still do hobbies that might result in accidents/injuries that we are paying for treatment for etc etc.

purpleme12 · 07/07/2020 21:33

What do you mean they kick off about channels? What channels do they want that you don't have?

AhNowTed · 07/07/2020 21:36

@WaxOnFeckOff

Please read my posts. The NHS makes nothing. The service for what it is is provided by a private company, and the NHS is locked into long and restrictive contracts.

WaxOnFeckOff · 07/07/2020 21:40

AhnowTed - do you have me confused with someone?

I'm agreeing with you, I was answering a previous poster who seemed to not like the fact that the NHS might be paying for the electricity. And apart from the fact the costs will be tiny, they will be a drop in the oceaon of the energy costs of a hospital.

I'm aware the NHS get nothing out of it, i'm aware who provides it and of the contracts.

CornishTiger · 07/07/2020 21:40

@AhNowTed so the Trust pay for the electric and receive no additional income. Previously they would have had communal TVs and not one TV using electric at each bedside.

Absolutely ridiculous contract to have got into.

CornishTiger · 07/07/2020 21:43

They really should have factored in additional energy costs and received a percentage of the income received.

Belowwreck · 07/07/2020 21:43

This makes me so angry. Its cheaper to watch TV in jail than in hospital.

WaxOnFeckOff · 07/07/2020 21:48

Well they should have done lots of things, in Scotland it's all schools and hospitals built via PPI and they have ripped off everyone.

But remember there are sick and dying people stuck in the middle of this, most would be happy to pay a donation for costs but the system isn't set up like that.

The mention of prisoners makes me wonder why no-one cares that we are feeding and housing and entertaining criminals but it's hospital patients that are getting it in the neck for being unhappy about exorbitant tv charges Hmm

AhNowTed · 07/07/2020 21:49

@CornishTiger agreed. It seemed like a good idea at the time (zero cost installation) but in hindsight the patients have been royally ripped off.

My advice would be

All Trusts now have to provide free WiFi.

However the free service is limited and not fit for live steaming.

I would upgrade to Premium WiFi which allows streaming and works out a lot cheaper than paying for TV. Assuming you have a smart phone or tablet of course.

The revenue still goes to a private company but at least it's cheaper.

AhNowTed · 07/07/2020 22:16

Correction

All Trusts in England now have to provide free WiFi.....

TicTac80 · 08/07/2020 03:38

In case there are journalists eyeing up this thread...bugger off!

They get angry that there aren’t more “movie style channels” or better range of sport channels. I guess they mean like the Sky channels. NB Not all of the people get cross, but quite a few.

I remember once I was looking after a v sick person, I got yelled at by another person for not being able to find a usable tv remote. I’ve had people threaten to self discharge, I’ve had people demand I change their room, I’ve had people yell/swear about the tellies not being up to scratch/working, signal dropping out, or whatever. The tv’s we have were given as a gift to the hospital, however we don’t have the funds to fix or replace them if they go wrong.

A paid for service, would be better as at least it means that there would be people about who could sort/fix it (going by what I saw where I trained!). I think if there was a sensible way of charging or making things less expensive, people would be happier to pay for it. It’s a tough one. I’d be happy if everything worked perfectly and there were no issues, but honestly there are times when I just wish that the powers that be never put the tellies into the wards, because even with free ones, they’re just not up to par for some people, and we get it in the neck for something that really is beyond our control. I’ve even lent my own phone or iPod for a while so that someone with a non-working tv (or no personal mobile phone) can listen to music or make a call (prior to us getting cordless phones) or watch something. I could get in trouble for doing that, but I do understand how it’s important to give people a break from what is happening and to let them take their mind of things

TibetanTerrier · 08/07/2020 12:03

I'd go without TV. A while back I found myself really sick of all the rubbish and gratuitous violence on all the time and stopped turning the tv on. I actually didn't turn it back on for a year and it was Wimbledon that enticed me then. I was surprised that it was so easy not to watch tv for so long, but I rediscovered quality radio, did crafting, read etc and just didn't miss it. I really found the frequent silence incredibly calming. I'm now much more discriminating about what I watch, and I definitely wouldn't spend £7.90 a day to watch tv.

purpleme12 · 08/07/2020 12:42

Yes but the point here is that lots of people would feel like they would really benefit from it in hospital

WaxOnFeckOff · 08/07/2020 13:20

A lot of people in hospital aren't physically able to read or craft and I know my DM found the radio annoying, we also took in a little cd player but she didn't like it and wouldn't listen to audio books either - it's just not always as easy as it seems.

BetsyBigNose · 08/07/2020 13:22

I've spent 8 out of the last 12 months in hospital and have always taken a small laptop in with me and used the free WiFi for TV, rather than pay the charges. If the hospital you're in doesn't have free WiFi, it's usually worth paying for - if that's an option - or getting a dongle from your mobile phone provider and creating your own hotspot.

Ironically, the only place TV was free was in ITU, when I was mostly in a coma, so not terribly bothered about watching TV!

Destroyedpeople · 08/07/2020 13:23

Well at least you don't get an accomodation and food bill or a medical services bill when you check out.....

WaxOnFeckOff · 08/07/2020 13:36

@Destroyedpeople

Well at least you don't get an accomodation and food bill or a medical services bill when you check out.....
Well no, but then I have paid tax and NI for 38 years and have been lucky to have enjoyed good health all my life so if I have to use some resources, including being accommodated and fed then I'm sure I'll not necessarily be thinking that I'm a burden to society - and not saving much either given I can't just give up my home and not pay for it while i'm in or not heat it when It's only DH and DSs there.
Destroyedpeople · 08/07/2020 13:38

Missing my point spectacularly but never mind...

HunterHearstHelmsley · 08/07/2020 13:44

It is expensive. Definitely.

I was in hospital for a few weeks earlier this year. I just downloaded onto tablets and watched those. I was admitted as an emergency so didn't have anything with me really (purse, keys, phone, charger). My sister downloaded a bunch for me and I had a tablet rotation system for when I'd run out of things to watch Grin

I imagine the charges will get higher as less people use it.

ladypete · 08/07/2020 19:36

And yet I hear it’s free in prison Hmm

Destroyedpeople · 08/07/2020 19:42

Oh I was just waiting for someone to come along and start about the pampered prison ers. So predictable.
Obviously tv is free in prison they are locked up for 23 hours a day. If you are long stay you might have a job otherwise you are locked up for 23 hours.
If they didn't have tv they would literally go mad. If they are not already suffering from a MH problem anyway and just been put in the general population .

Destroyedpeople · 08/07/2020 19:44

Oh and it's not 'tv' as you might imagine. Just a few channels and fuzzy screen.

WaxOnFeckOff · 08/07/2020 19:46

Destroyed, I don't disagree they should get free TV in prison, I'm just saying it should also be free in hospital, especially if it's long stay. I don't really watch tv much but do watch netflix etc sometimes. I've also only been in hospital for childbirth and therefore had plenty to occupy me, i'm sure most people who are in for only short times can manage fine without. But a patient may be in bed for 24 hours a day for weeks/months on end and to charge what could be vulnerable people so much for TV is atrocious.

Destroyedpeople · 08/07/2020 19:49

Yes it does seem a bit tight tbh....I agree.
But whoever it was that started about prisoners. ...it's a silly comparison.

WaxOnFeckOff · 08/07/2020 19:51

As I understand, the punishment element of prison is about denying freedom and limiting access to family and friends. There really isn't any need for further punishment. Equally we need to be thinking that elderly and vulnerable people in our community should be able to access a standard of living no lower than a prisoner would have.