to want to slap people who say LAY down when they mean LIE down?

[UnquietDad]

That's it, really.

I have been puzzling that one (the prayer) since it ws posted earlier. I looked it up and it is dated 1784 so clearly isn't a new oddity. However, I think it falls into one of 3 categories ... it's a prayer and so, like poems and songs, is afforded a different level of grammatic expectation ... it's quite old and, has already been pointed out, language changes over time ... it says 'lay me down' as opposed to 'lay down' so isn't quite the same meaning.

Or am I looking too deeply into this

Ah - x posts with people who are more specific than me - typical

But good point about the poetry tigerschick. Poems tend not to use correct grammar/sentence structure all the time, the rules are a bit more fluid

Oh yes you are right. I was a bit slack there

How does everybody pronounce the word dour?

there are more important/exciting things to get worked up about tbh

like our with a d in front

This is all making me chuckle. Bonita, I'm also Spanish and very anal about language. But for some reason I'm more anal about the English language than the Spanish! I only managed to read Trainspotting by imagining the only person with a Scottish accent I knew reading it aloud - and that was Ruth from Eastenders (years ago!)

but how do you pronounce 'our' -- like 'are' or 'hour'?

hour!

and I was wondering yesterday why 'lager' is pronounced like it is. Anyone know?

German?

I don't pronounce dour like are or hour.

But I can't find any other word it rhymes with .

It has a long oo sound.

"Dour" is "doo-er"

Have to confess to not using the word but have always read it that way.

do you say tomato with ah sound or ay?

Dour is doooor with a long ooo

But then I am Glaswegian...

Only an american would say tom-ay-to, surely???

Yes, just looked it up and lager is from German, hence the pronunciation. Dour can be pronounced both ways according to the OED:
www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/dour?view=uk

Yes, I was being silly

link again: www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/dour?view=uk

Oh the relief

Caroline 1852 - ?????

vacaloca, me too, but I like to say "passionate" rather than "anal" LOL
I like your MN name btw...

Does the dictionary say both are correct

dour as in hour
and dour as in sewer
?