To report this to police?

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My grandad is refusing to give up his licence. He is 86, and has become more and more disabled over the years.

Last year he spent a month in hospital after fracturing his hip- he now has one leg shorter than the other and walks with two sticks. He limps and can only walk around 2m unaided. We suspect although have no proof that he could not do an emergency stop.

He has glaucoma and reduced eyesight. He regularly goes to get his eyes depressurised and then drives back even though his sight is impaired after the procedure. He will not accept a lift.

Last Wednesday he had a fall and broke his arm. We just called him and he was not in. Then called my nana and they were 'driving'. She said she was changing gears for him.

I am honestly at my wits end with them. They could kill someone. What can we do? My dad has called their GP to discuss it but they can not do anything with out my grandads permission. The police were unhelpful as he passed his driving test review a few years back.

My grandparents could have help from myself, my brother or my father but won't accept it. They have also been completely flouting the covid 19 rules and have been out every day shopping, visiting friends and generally pissing all of us off with their lack of care for others.

I had a thought though, would it work if I reported them for dangerous driving?

Police and DVLA. Police now, DVLA later.

Yes I would tell the DVLA and the police.
If he killed someone (or multiple people) imagine how guilty and horrendous you would feel. I get that its hard for him but he is just being flat out selfish now.

Had this happen with my grandad, in the end my dad went over there and took his car keys off him as well as reporting to DVLA, he was asked to take a eye test which he failed and his licence was taken off him.

Report and keep reporting to everyone gp police dvla until his license is removed. He shouldn’t be anywhere near the wheel of a car and you know that. He doesn’t accept this so you need to ensure his license is removed by reporting reporting reporting (and keep up the frank conversations though sounds unlikely he’ll listen). Speak to his wife too. Be frank and graphic that he could cause one or multiple deaths. Good luck it’s not easy trying to get through to them but it must be done.

And actually yes as PP said remove his keys somehow as it sounds like he might just keep on driving even if no license!!

Yes report to the police, like you would if he was drink or drug driving. He isn't fit to drive. This sort of behaviour disgusts me, it's so selfish. A few weeks ago my DP was walking to the chemist to get a prescription for me whilst I waited in the car and I watched an elderly man drive straight through a parking space, up the kerb and into the chemist window, missing my DP by seconds. When he got out of the vehicle he barely even registered what he'd done and tried to potter off to do his shopping! They are no less irresponsible and selfish than teenagers speeding in their first cars.

Report to the DVLA, my step grandmother didn't disclose that she's losing her vision and someone reported her so she lost her licence

Please report him OP, better for him to lose a bit of independence than him or someone else losing their life.

We reported an elderly couple a few years ago. Driving very slowly, mounting the kerb and traffic islands, weaving all the way. We were one of many who followed and reported. In fact, we called 999 because our initial thought was drink driving, the driving was that bad.

Losing some freedom is nothing compared to dealing with the guilt of killing an innocent pedestrian/cyclist/driver.

She was changing gear for him FFS! Besides, you're not allowed to drive with a broken arm. It will invalidate your insurance, and leave you at risk of a £1k fine and prosecution if you cause an accident.

Police and dvla. Every hour that goes by they could be out on the road harming themselves or others. You'd never forgive yourself if you didn't put a stop to this and they had an accident.

My elderly neighbor was stopped by police trying to pass a road closed for an event. They removed him from the car immediately- thank god they did as he had started suffering from dementia and could have continued driving his car well into the future.

Police and DVLA.

He should not be on the road and he is a danger to both himself, his wife and other road users or pedestrians.

Absolutely report him ! I’ve reported one of the GP’s of a child at school , who was still doing school pick ups even though he had deteriorating vison to the extent that he would drive over pavements full of people to leave a car park . I’d already mentioned to the parents when I’d seen them that he really shouldn’t be driving , but apparently they “needed him to help for child care “ . The final straw came when I had to physically bang on his bonnet with both hands and holler at him because he tried driving out of the school gates through a group of five year olds and their parents on the school pavement . Enough . The parents won’t speak to me now , because his licence got revoked but you know what ? I’ll take that as a win .

Clamp his car, I had to for my father in law who was driving with dementia and didn't even know his name, his children were too scared to take his keys off him.

The parents won’t speak to me now , because his licence got revoked but you know what ? I’ll take that as a win

OMG this is awful. You could have saved a child's life by stopping him, thank goodness you did.
So glad you said something.

I was in a similar situation with my father. He refused to stop driving and wasn’t safe, so I said I would report him to the DVLA.
He said if I did he would never speak to me again
I got my siblings on board and we did report him and he did stop.
He did talk to me again as well.

We created an urgent need to borrow the car, dragged it out a bit then it happened to break down and be uneconomical to repair. Kept up the illusion that everything is fine rather than getting them to see sense but still.

YANBU

Selfish sod (sorry, I know he is your grandad but still)
My DF had to stop driving but he decided to stop . Broke his heart to no longer get behind a wheel but he done it to protect others, and himself.

This happened with my FIL. He has dementia and refused to stop driving. He came home one day with a bump in his car and said it had happened on the hospital car park. I rang and they had no CCTV. We went to see him at home and there was an exact matching dent in his driveway post.
My husband just took his car keys. He then wrote to the DVLA, copying in the GP. They cancelled his licence. It took ages though. But he had 'lost' they keys anyway.
Reporting him to the police would work if you do it when he is out in the car - they can't do anything on someone else reporting lack of competency.

My friend was run over on his bike by an old man turning right who had glaucoma (my friend was in full luminous gear, following the rules of the road, going straight ahead, and it was broad daylight). His back was broken and he spent six months in hospital recuperating. The old guy 'didn't see him'. I would report him to the DVLA.

You should have called the police immediately and told them the roads they were driving, the direction and the make and license of the car so they could have stopped them on the road and actually done something about it.

Trouble with the police is preferable to killing someone. Take action now; go over and take the keys.

Tell your GP to register the change in circumstances in their health.
Contact the DVLA.
contact the police.

Be firm.

And, frankly, I'd disable their car.

We had to report my dad as he kept driving despite having Parkinsons and dementia. He would randomly loose all control of feet but still felt safe to drive. My mum also enabled him, seeing as she doesn't drive and he was her taxi. She told me that if he lost control while driving it'd be fine as the car knew it's way home. FFS!

*lose