Headteacher says I can't go on holiday

[Scuzzymummy]

Ok so this might not be a problem in a few weeks and please please believe me when I say I have done everything possible to ensure my pupils have had my attention and expertise when needed during lockdown. I have recorded lessons, marked work, given feedback etc... I know lots on MN have some very strong feelings about teachers at the moment 😬.
So I have a holiday abroad booked for the 18yh August. I have been hanging on and hanging on to see if we can go. We are so desperate for a break- who isn't- but my headteacher has emailed today and said that of quarantine measures are still in place in September then holidays at the end of August need to be cancelled. What do I do, I know I need to be back in September, god knows I want to have actually children in front of me not a bloody screen. But if we cancel we will loose hundreds and hundreds plus the holiday. We can't change the date, my husband is not able to change. Help!

@TroysMammy

I've just seen that Croatia is green. Enjoy your holiday.

Does that mean UK had decided flights inbound from Croatia don't need to quarantine and Croatia has agreed to accept flights from UK? I think the later is still being negotiated with other countries.

Oh this will be interesting in September. Many parents will be going on holiday over the summer. Will the HT also be telling parents they cannot go on holiday, especially secondary and above where students would also require 14 days isolation?

Hotels have started taking bookings. Some London ones are insanely cheap at the moment, so I've booked myself a night in a very nice one, even though I live in London haha.

Will the HT also be telling parents they cannot go on holiday, especially secondary and above where students would also require 14 days isolation?

If, big if, England does go back to school in September full time I think there will probably be some leeway for parents to decide if they are comfortable sending their children to school immediately.

I think it would be an interesting argument “I’m happy to fly abroad on holiday but I’m not comfortable with my child returning to school as it is too dangerous”... i.e. I feel it is safe to go through an airport, get on a flight and then the transfer, stay in a hotel/villa or whatever, then same on return journey. But it is not safe for a child to go to school? That smacks of absolute bull, if I’m honest. Totally illogical. That is- ‘I am happy to run risks as long as I get a holiday’. That’s far more important than a child’s education, obviously 🙄. I honestly despair of some people.

How would parents have leeway to decide?

If they go on holiday with their teens, then the household would have to self isolate as well, just like school staff so potentially could miss time from school.

If I'd already booked for this year, we would have been back a day or two before school starts. And if following the guidelines my teen would have to isolate. And had I booked one, unless the company cancelled we would be going, even if I still worked in a school. But I did work in one of these awful unsupportive ones hence I'd already quit.

I'm a teacher (I haven't got a holiday booked as I'll be heavily pregnant in August) and my Head has emailed all staff this week to ask who has booked a holiday from mid August onwards where the current quarantine rules will affect them returning to school at the beginning of September. She has asked staff affected by this to send her evidence of the flights to show the date of their return and to prove that they booked the holiday before the lockdown came into effect. If they booked before the lockdown she will make plans for that staff member to be covered. If they booked after the lockdown started then they won't be covered and they'll be expected to either cancel the holiday or accept a pay reduction for September.

As you booked so far in advance I would contact your union and ask what support they can offer.

If they go on holiday with their teens, then the household would have to self isolate as well, just like school staff so potentially could miss time from school.

I was meaning they are unlikely to be chased up by a HT. A child not returning to school impacting their own education is totally different to an employee taking actions knowing that it will mean they can't return to their place of work when expected.

I'd go an 🤐

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Croatia has very few cases so I expect it will be deemed safe

@MolyHolyGuacamole. OP I agree with this post, go, and keep quiet no one needs to know

I haven’t read through the whole thread yet but why don’t the Government put back starting school 2 wks later in Sept, if this quarantine rule is still in place. Imagine if there were multiple teachers needing to be quarantined at the start of term!

@LucyLikesDiamonds do you not think children have missed enough school?

Thing is quarantine may come and go depending on the levels of virus in different countries.

@ineedaholidaynow you’re right, just thinking of alternative solutions. Imagine if there are multiple teachers taking the same dates, possibility as the last two weeks are usually a bit cheaper plus there’s a bank holiday thrown into the mix.

[quote LucyLikesDiamonds]@ineedaholidaynow you’re right, just thinking of alternative solutions. Imagine if there are multiple teachers taking the same dates, possibility as the last two weeks are usually a bit cheaper plus there’s a bank holiday thrown into the mix.[/quote]
And are you suggesting they also extend the same additional 2 weeks at home and/or holiday to Nurses, Drs, Carers, Police, Fire, or anyone who needs to back in their place of work after a holiday? Not just the 2 weeks before the summer holidays, any holidays at any time while quarantine rules are in place.

No, just the start of the school term, when hundreds of thousands of school children ‘should’ be back in school.

Like I stated, I was thinking of alternative solutions not DEMANDING it!

Something will have to happen if the quarantine rules are in place!

so looks like Croatia is categorised as ok to not have to quarantine when coming home.

so that's alright then.

“ Ministers are understood to be closely monitoring spikes in the number of cases in Belgium and Luxembourg, as well as in Croatia, a more popular holiday destination for British tourists.”

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/29/belgium-luxembourg-and-croatia-may-join-spain-on-englands-covid-19-quarantine-list

I warned OP about this a month ago with no reply. You can see in this thread people assuming that because a country is classified as green, it’ll stay that way forever.

OP should fully expect to quarantine upon return or not go.

OP was due to fly to Croatia two days ago.

Just in:

Exclusive: Croatia to go on UK's quarantine 'red list' after infection rate triples in a week.

Headteacher was vindicated.

I was just thinking about this thread! Update please OP!