Part-timers working same hours as full-timers for part-time pay

[Snaptheirfingers]

This is a Covid-19 situation. We are key workers (UK civil servants). Our normal work can't take place at the moment. So we are doing other jobs in similar roles to cover those off shielding and to keep us working.
The issue is that I work 3 days a week and am being asked to work 1 or 2 days a week on my normal pay, so a bonus of a paid day off though I never know when it is until the evening before. My colleagues who are full-time employees are also being asked to work 1 or 2 days. They get their normal pay too. We are just on the minimum wage so I worked 2 days this week and would have earned about £100, my colleague also worked 2 days and got £250. I know this is short lived we may be back to our normal jobs and days next year but it doesn't seem fair! A fellow part-timer raised this with her line manager and has suffered as a result (not being selected for interview for a promotion).

Are you in a union? If you are, then ask them for advice

I agree it's not fair, it should be organised with normal hours in mind. Given you're still doing less work than you're paid for and they've already demonstrated they don't want to hear it I'm not sure I would actually do anything about it if you want to keep your job.

A union would expect you to raise it yourself first though! OP hasn't mentioned it so far.

Part timers have always not been paid overtime rate in DWP until they have done the full time 37hrs.

The full timers are getting paid more for their additional days as they have already reached the 37hrs so the overtime they do is paid at 1.5rTe or double time.

And you don’t have to do the extra hours.

It sounds to me like you want to argue for your colleagues to have a pay cut. I wouldn’t go there. Just make the most of your free day off every week while it lasts.

@stretchedmarks

but why would anyone be happy that someone else was getting paid more than they were for the exact same hours of work

Lots of people are currently being paid for doing no work at all. Should we all be up in arms?

Hang on, you're being paid your usual wage and getting an extra day off paid? And you're complaining?

Totally misread your post.

Quit moaning tbh. Some people have been working full time whilst others in my company furloughed on 100%. It grates but life is too short.

YANBU and not grabby at all. It should be pro-rate otherwise it’s unfair. You’re being discriminated against for being part-time which is illegal I believe.

You’re the one who chose to be part time. I chose to be self employed instead of PAYE in March. Imagine how fucked I am now.
I don’t blame my colleagues, if this hadn’t have happened, like you I would be very happy with my lot in life.

I also don't understand why so many people use the argument of 'so many other people have it worse', either

Because it's a global pandemic, OP is in a secure job, recieving normal pay for less work and yet is still moaning.

But basically OP. You’re one of those people in life. Always moaning that others have it better. If someone took a Slice of a cake, you’d probably think they got the best slice.

Posters who are saying complain or approach HR .
Genuine interest here - what is she saying to them?

I am being paid for more than I work at the moment. I want to work less?

Or my colleagues need to work more? So I can work less?

The company are clearly trying to keep everyone on here. Much better than part timers being made redundant and full timers carrying on.

"but why would anyone be happy that someone else was getting paid more than they were for the exact same hours of work."
Like people working full time while colleagues are furloughed on full or near-full pay you mean?

@Iggi999

It's generally accepted people who work part time work more than their allocated hours

Is it? Have you got any links to evidence for this?It's never been true in any of my workplaces. Part time workers clock off part way through the day, at their allotted time, and full timers stay to the end - which often is later than when they're meant to finish.

You shouldn't have to be available to work every day IMO, if your contract says 3 days, then you should know in advance what those 3 days will be. That's the unfair bit

Fair enough I don't work in the kind of place you would click on and off. In many professional jobs there's an element of "getting the work done" no matter how long that takes - part time workers tend to bear the brunt of this as their part time role has often not been adequately reduced to fit the reduced time. Many many threads were people ask about going part time, posters are advised to reconsider as they will work extra in reality. My own experience if both, full time was easier. Same for friends who have moved between both. Same for surveys carried out in my own profession. Obviously not conclusive, peer reviewed studies

YABU to assume that your colleague wasn’t selected for interview for promotion because she raised this with her manager.

You work for a v large employer, with an HR department, so can easily query this with the rota manager and HR.

Well I’m glad lots of people have known part timers who do their fair share. I haven’t.

In my workplaces I’ve found they dodge or don’t complete work or find excuses to pass more difficult tasks onto the full timers.

Also they tend be the ones to have non- work related excuses for arriving late and leaving early.

So your colleagues are doing 40% of their normal hours and getting paid fulltime

You are working 66% of your normal hours and getting paid part-time.

I can see why you are pissed off but I'm not sure that you can do anything about it, just because of the circumstances that it occurred in. It will just make you look like the bad guy and not a team player bla bla bla.

So the issue, from your POV is that everyone is getting their normal pay and doing 1-2 days a week work? That seems fair - no one is getting a bonus, everyone is doing less work it just hasn’t been pro rata. I’d focus on being glad I’m getting my full pay for less work and forget others.

Well op you have a point, but I'd think things through if I were you, although you're probably too late thanks to your colleague.

If you go and say to your bosses it's not fair, they may take a look and think 'no it isn't, what we will do is reduce everyone's pay to the hours they work only.'

In other words, you take a pay cut too. They are hardly going to increase your pay are they? Not in this climate and for doing less work. So if you like having less money, complain.

However like I said, you're probably screwed anyway. Your colleague has complained now, and the bosses may choose to reduce everyone's pay. Start learning to cope on less money.

Wah wah poor me I’m getting paid for a days work I’m not having to do but some of my colleagues are getting even more.

How greedy and pathetic and most definitely unreasonable

@Iggi999

Obviously you would know better than me, being more experienced in life, and working in a profession that better demonstrates your point.

Did you have any links to anything, or is it just your opiniion?

Sorry this is happening to us all. I'm working my normal hours, my colleagues furloughed, I'm being paid the same. It sucks basically