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How effective are face coverings?

14 replies

Thomasina79 · 18/06/2020 14:20

I’m particularly interested in the views of medical professionals. Clearly in health settings they are, but how effective are the paper ones, or the home made cloth ones?

Genuinely interested, not trying to annoy anyone!

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PestymcPestFace · 18/06/2020 14:24

Read this lady on Twitter twitter.com/trishgreenhalgh
I can't be bothered to your research for you.

showmewhatyougot · 18/06/2020 14:36

There's literally hundreds of thousands of papers, and research articles all over the web, with all the different mask types etc, probably better looking at some of them rather then asking on Mumsnet if you want accuracy.

OldQueen1969 · 18/06/2020 15:16

No idea OP. I'm wearing one to be on the safe side and because I'll be fined 100.00 if a police person sees me on the bus without one apparently. I have read a bazillion different opinions all over the web and am just going with better safe than sorry tbh.

WorraLiberty · 18/06/2020 15:18

@showmewhatyougot

There's literally hundreds of thousands of papers, and research articles all over the web, with all the different mask types etc, probably better looking at some of them rather then asking on Mumsnet if you want accuracy.
That's exactly what I was going to say.

Information provided by actual proven medical professionals

Not Bob and Barbara from Mumsnet.

VictoriaBun · 18/06/2020 15:19

Hasn't it been reported that the effectiveness of them is keeping the actual cough more contained ?
It's not about them keeping virus out , but the spray expelled if coughing.

VirtueClapper83 · 18/06/2020 15:22

Assuming your wearing one when you cough/sneeze, you’ll likely be reducing the spread of the droplets to your face and neck area. Doesn’t stop you inhaling droplets though from someone coughing/sneezing who’s not wearing one, and you are

Sandybval · 18/06/2020 15:24

There's loads of research online. Essentially they protect others by stopping x amount of droplets entering the air if you cough etc- if enough of a % wear them they essentially protect everyone.

user1495884620 · 18/06/2020 15:24

@showmewhatyougot

There's literally hundreds of thousands of papers, and research articles all over the web, with all the different mask types etc, probably better looking at some of them rather then asking on Mumsnet if you want accuracy.
And they all say something completely different so you may as well ask a random on the internet!
PestymcPestFace · 18/06/2020 16:29

Here's a cut and paste of the basic (as nobody seems to follow links)

Can face masks help prevent the spread of the coronavirus that causes COVID-19? Yes, face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as frequent hand-washing and social distancing, help slow the spread of the virus.

So why weren't face masks recommended at the start of the pandemic? At that time, experts didn't yet know the extent to which people with COVID-19 could spread the virus before symptoms appeared. Nor was it known that some people have COVID-19 but don't have any symptoms. Both groups can unknowingly spread the virus to others.

These discoveries led the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to do an about-face on face masks. The CDC updated its guidance to recommend widespread use of simple cloth face coverings to help prevent transmission of the virus by people who have COVID-19 but don't know it.

Some public health groups argue that masks should be reserved for health care providers and point to the critical shortage of surgical masks and N95 masks. The CDC acknowledged this concern when it recommended cloth masks for the public and not the surgical and N95 masks needed by health care providers.

How do the different types of masks work?
Surgical masks
Also called a medical mask, a surgical mask is a loose-fitting disposable mask that protects the wearer's nose and mouth from contact with droplets, splashes and sprays that may contain germs. A surgical mask also filters out large particles in the air. Surgical masks may protect others by reducing exposure to the saliva and respiratory secretions of the mask wearer.

At this time, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has not approved any type of surgical mask specifically for protection against the coronavirus, but these masks may provide some protection when N95 masks are not available.

N95 masks
Actually a type of respirator, an N95 mask offers more protection than a surgical mask does because it can filter out both large and small particles when the wearer inhales. As the name indicates, the mask is designed to block 95% of very small particles. Some N95 masks have valves that make them easier to breathe through. With this type of mask, unfiltered air is released when the wearer exhales.

Health care providers must be trained and pass a fit test to confirm a proper seal before using an N95 respirator in the workplace. Like surgical masks, N95 masks are intended to be disposable. However, researchers are testing ways to disinfect N95 masks so they can be reused.

Some N95 masks, and even some cloth masks, have one-way valves that make them easier to breathe through. But because the valve releases unfiltered air when the wearer breathes out, this type of mask doesn't prevent the wearer from spreading the virus. For this reason, some places have banned them.

Cloth masks
While surgical and N95 masks are in short supply and must be reserved for health care providers, cloth masks are easy to find and can be washed and reused.

Asking everyone to wear cloth masks can help reduce the spread of the coronavirus by people who have COVID-19 but don't realize it. And countries that required face masks, testing, isolation and social distancing early in the pandemic seem to have had some success slowing the spread of the virus.

Cloth masks are cheap and simple to make. Instructions are easy to find online. Masks can be made from common materials, such as sheets made of tightly woven cotton. The CDC website even includes directions for no-sew masks made from bandannas and T-shirts. Cloth masks should include multiple layers of fabric.

How to wear a cloth face mask
Cloth face masks should be worn in public settings where social distancing measures are difficult to maintain, such as in grocery stores, especially in areas of significant community-based transmission.

Here are a few pointers for putting on and taking off a cloth mask:

Place your mask over your mouth and nose.
Tie it behind your head or use ear loops and make sure it's snug.
Don't touch your mask while wearing it.
If you accidentally touch your mask, wash or sanitize your hands.
Remove the mask by untying it or lifting off the ear loops without touching the front of the mask or your face.
Wash your hands immediately after removing your mask.
Regularly wash your mask with soap and water in the washing machine. It's fine to launder it with other clothes.
Finally, here are a few face mask precautions:

Don't put masks on anyone who has trouble breathing, or is unconscious or otherwise unable to remove the mask without help.
Don't put masks on children under 2 years of age.
Don't use face masks as a substitute for social distancing.

www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449

Many dentists are now going back to work wearing two masks, an N95 type to protect themselves and a surgical mask to protect their patients.

More light reading en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_masks_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic#Mask_use_and_policies_by_country_and_territory

There are also an awful lot of freshly peer reviewed papers and even more previews that can be hunted down on Google Scholar.

Many people who are infected with coronavirus have no clue as they are either asymptomatic or have such mild symptoms it is indistinguishable from lockdown malaise. This is an unusual problem and has added to the swift spread of this virus.
A surgical mask or fabric face covering prevents egress. We all leak droplets when we breath, talk and laugh as well as the obvious coughs and sneezes. Keeping those droplets off other people and other things, could pretty much halt the progress of this virus. All we need is 75%+ of people to wear face coverings on public transport, shops and other places where we might get close.

pinktaxi · 18/06/2020 17:09

Basically, unless you have a very high spec one, they don't do much to protect you, but they frotect others from you.

Lesson here, is everyone wear them in enclosed environments especially if you can't social distance 2 m.

letmethinkaboutitfornow · 19/06/2020 06:55

@PestymcPestFace 😂😂😂😂 but TLTR

Doingtheboxerbeat · 19/06/2020 08:35

All I know is that I mentioned on a post that I started about my anxiety of having to rely on public transport and I was reassured that I need to just pop on a mask and I'll be fine Hmm.
Too many people out there have no clue about what they actually do.

redwoodmazza · 19/06/2020 08:43

They are to protect others FROM you - not to protect you from the virus.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 19/06/2020 10:40

@redwoodmazza, precisely.

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