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Rat with broken leg in my garden

260 replies

HgnncaNameMy · 16/06/2020 11:46

There's a grassy area behind my house full of rats and mice. I moved here in February and the neighbours said theres a massive rat problem

I have 4 cats so don't have many issues

Theres currently a rat hiding under the kids garden toy and its leg is definetly broken, 3 of its legs seem fine but it's dragging one behind it

Who can i ring about this? Will someone come out and take it?

I know people class them as vermin but it's still a living creature that must be in absolute agony right now

OP posts:
Purpletigers · 17/06/2020 01:52

Don’t dump the poor thing in a field far away . It will spend the rest of its life trying to hitchhike back to his family like in the movies . It would have been kinder to hit it on the head with a spade or shovel .

Theterrible42s · 17/06/2020 04:35

Blimey some people are very disconnected from the natural world aren't they? For what it's worth, I don't think there's anything disturbing about a child wanting to see a dog catch a squirrel. We live rurally and often find dead mice around the place, and occasionally see our dog catch one - the kids find it fascinating, that doesn't mean they have no compassion and I'm glad they get to see nature in action. They understand it's a much healthier, humane solution than putting poison down or being overrun with vermin. We even saw our hens catching and dispatching a vole once, that was really interesting!
Presumably it's ok for children to learn about predator behaviour in the wild via nature documentaries, and even acceptable for them to find that interesting?

countrygirl99 · 17/06/2020 10:17

theterrible42s I find it odd that at a time half the country is petrified of covid people are quite happy to manhandle a rat that is likely to be carrying a far more serious disease. Its like they don't realise rats and mice are incontinent and continually dribble urine. Hanle a rat and you have it's urine on your hands and you are at risk of Weil's disease which makes covid look like a bit of a sniffle.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 17/06/2020 13:33

A sharp shovel to the neck would have been far kinder. It was never going to end well. Yes, it’s hard to kill an animal, but it’s the kind thing to do. Any human interaction would be incredibly stressful for it.

I have to agree with this.

I know you were meaning to be kind, but you and your friend effectively tortured that rat to death.

Ibuprofen poisoning is horrible (I've looked it up).

It won't have just fallen asleep and not awoken.

A shovel would have been kinder. It's very quick.

MozzchopsThirty · 17/06/2020 13:48

205 messages about a fucking rat 🙄
Only MN could be that dramatic

Clearly OP you have too much time on your hands

bgmama · 17/06/2020 13:53

205 messages about a fucking rat
Only MN could be that dramatic

Clearly OP you have too much time on your hands

I have to agree with all of this.

TheQueef · 17/06/2020 13:55

Has anyone suggested hitting it with a shovel? Smile

Thisismytimetoshine · 17/06/2020 13:56

Jesus, it's dead. Just leave it.

MozzchopsThirty · 17/06/2020 14:04

@TheQueef I did 🤣

Chesneyhawkes1 · 17/06/2020 14:08

@Theterrible42s I totally agree. Apparently a little 7 year year old boy is horrible 🤷🏼‍♀️

Thisismytimetoshine · 17/06/2020 14:09

More disturbed, I'd say.

SerendipityJane · 17/06/2020 14:19

205 messages about a fucking rat 🙄 Only MN could be that dramatic

We could post about Boris Johnson if you like. Some rats have names, you know.

Viviennemary · 17/06/2020 14:45

The rat is long gone released (dumped) in a field. I wonder what it's doing now.

TheQueef · 17/06/2020 15:16

@Thisismytimetoshine No it isn't.
It's pining for the Norwegian fjords.

Thisismytimetoshine · 17/06/2020 16:13

[quote TheQueef]@Thisismytimetoshine No it isn't.
It's pining for the Norwegian fjords.[/quote]
I was talking about the 7 year old "desperate to see his dog catch a squirrel".

WeAllHaveWings · 17/06/2020 16:41

I will get DP to speak to the neighbours again and see if we can all complain together or somthing and see if it makes a difference

You do realise they won't come and humanely capture the rats and rehome them? They will set poison which will cause them to die slowly and painfully from internal bleeding, baby rats will just die of starvation when mummy doesn't come home. Just saying as you dont want to see rats in distress.

Chesneyhawkes1 · 17/06/2020 16:58

@Thisismytimetoshine god you really are quite pathetic 😂

Scotland32 · 17/06/2020 17:44

Did I actually just read that someone gave a rat with two broken legs some Ibuprofen?!? MN has really outdone itself this time.
And really not the most humane way to deal with it. Where did sense go during lockdown?!
If it wasn’t for the poor rat, that story would have made for great entertainment though.

AKissAndASmile · 17/06/2020 17:47

205 messages about a fucking rat 🙄
Only MN could be that dramatic

Clearly OP you have too much time on your hands

So true. I came on here to see how the hell this thread is still going!

Nonotthisagain · 17/06/2020 17:56

Blimey Charlie - the kindest most humane thing to do would have been to dispatch it quickly with a shovel/brick/whatever.

My cats sometimes bring in half dead creatures and i know the right thing to do is to put them out of their misery

Ecologynut · 17/06/2020 18:02

Im a lurker of these posts but I thought i would provide some proper advise to this OP.

First of all if you have rats or mice on your property, then under the Prevention of Damage by Pests Act 1949, under section 3 it states that there is an obligation of occupiers of land to notify local authority of rats and mice if it comes to their knowledge that rats or mice are living on or resorting to the land in substantial number . Any person who fails to give a notice which he is required to give under this shall be liable to a summary conviction fine. So you need to report this and get it dealt with usual with pest control.

Secondly do not under any circumstances catch any rats or mice for any reason, despite the usual issues with disease. This will put you in place a duty of care for the welfare of all animals under human control (even on a temporary basis), under the Animal Welfare Act 2006. Which means you are fully responsible for its welfare and or dispatch if there is justified reason only in a humane way.

Under The Wild Mammals Protection Act 1996 requires that in the context of pest control, animals should be killed in a ‘reasonably swift and humane manner’.

The following methods are considered to be humane:
• Destruction of the brain by a strong and accurate blow to the head with a suitable implement
• Lethal overdose of appropriate gaseous or injectable anaesthetic (Not available for general use)
• Destruction of the brain by shooting

By administering Ibuprofen to the rat is not legally classed as humane and there for illegal. The second issue now is that if any other animal consumes the corpse of an illegally poisoned animal, it may poison that animal also (E.G pets, protected species, endangered birds of prey) which could lead to conviction and further suffering of other animals.

As for releasing it in a field may bring you into disrepute with the land owner as you are transferring a known Pest with would come under the Prevention of Damage by Pests Act if they found out and could land you in trouble.

You should have left the rat where it was and called a professional pest control officer. Being ignorant of the law is not an excuse if you were to be reported.

xsquared · 17/06/2020 18:18

205 messages about a fucking rat 🙄
Only MN could be that dramatic

Clearly OP you have too much time on your hands

So true. I came on here to see how the hell this thread is still going!

But you're bumping it up by adding your own comment too?

LadyofTheManners · 17/06/2020 18:26

Last one we had had clearly been half gotten by a neighborhood cat.
I dropped a brick on it.
Job done.
(Felt slightly squeamish though in an embarrassing girly way and got DP to shovel it into a bag).

Amitskitshaw · 17/06/2020 18:27

Poison it

TerribleCustomerCervix · 17/06/2020 18:36

There seems to be a bit of a disconnect between how the Op wants to deal with this individual rat and the collective rat problem with her neighbours.

What do you think the council are going to do once they answer your neighbours’ request for assistance?

They will not be taking the rats to a Rat Hotel to live out their ratty retirement.

They’ll be poisoning them.