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Is it time we all helped to provide voluntary child care

252 replies

Maryjane3227 · 14/06/2020 19:45

So I've read all the frustrated threads from parents wishing their children could return to school, and working in a school I know that September could mean "blended learning"(part-time hours in school, continuation of home learning).
How many mumsnetters would be happy to give 2 hours a week voluntarily to their communities to help with the child care provision that will be required if/when children are not in school come Sep?
If for example church halls or empty office spaces could be used, and all the necessary legal bumpf was completed, how many of us would help out for the good of everyone?
Or is this mess someone else's problem to sort out?

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GreekOddess · 14/06/2020 21:19

I don't understand we don't have a lack of childcare workers we have a lack of space due to social distancing rules. Or have I completely misunderstood the problem?

nanbread · 14/06/2020 21:22

Rules against reciprocal child care should be relaxed - urgently, as we find our way out of this crisis, but also long term.

@FriedasCarLoad as far as I'm aware Ofsted were told not to pursue parents who were doing this unless they were being paid. So it's fine.

brakethree · 14/06/2020 21:22

I wonder how many mensnet threads there are on asking about childcare....

bridgetreilly · 14/06/2020 21:23

(a) Who are all these people with time to provide childcare?
(b) How would they do it any more safely than schools?
(c) Who is going to process all the DBS checks, do the health and safety training and risk assessments, who is going to be the SEN provision, who is going to provide the equipment, clean the buildings, ensure the social distancing, and unblock the toilets?

I think this is the most ridiculous solution to the education issue I've heard yet.

U2HasTheEdge · 14/06/2020 21:23

Nope.

I work full time and have five of my own children.

cabbageking · 14/06/2020 21:25

How are those who are benefiting from free child care to repay into this community scheme?

Have volunteered through Covid to help but now this is helping others to work. Not sure how I feel about this?

MayFayre · 14/06/2020 21:26

I would happily do this.

Parker231 · 14/06/2020 21:29

For those offering to volunteer, what teaching qualifications do you hold? Sorry but I wouldn’t be leaving my DC’s with unqualified strangers.

Letseatgrandma · 14/06/2020 21:29

Nope, and I wouldn’t send my child to something like this, it’s a safeguarding nightmare!

Who would be liable when a child refuses to do what they’re asked, lobs something at the adult in charge and legs it out the door?!

SouthernComforts · 14/06/2020 21:30

It's crazy that we are discussing setting up pretty much the equivalent of speakeasys during prohibition to provide childcare for our children so we can work. What a fucking crazy world this has become.

bananaskinsnomnom · 14/06/2020 21:31

If this was to be put in place then you may as well bring schools back to full capacity and restart wrap around care.

Part of my job before lockdown was wrap around care, morning and afternoon. I’ve lost my income from that as at my school it counts as overtime rather than contracted pay. Why should I and others like me who are qualified, trained and experienced now do our job for free?

I get the concept. And before people pounce on me, I’m no stranger to volunteering. I’m a Brownie leader and have been a Rainbow leader. I volunteer at a camp for children 3 weeks each summer and have done for 14 years. I’m not someone unwilling, but this idea, whilst it has its heart in the right place, won’t work and one reason is that it takes the paid work from the qualified and gives it to volunteers, leaving more people still furloughed or with their childcare businesses going down the pan. And as mentioned, if the children are going to school then mixing with volunteers and other children, they may as well just be back in school and clubs and child minders. That will mean yet more people earning money again.

Plus sadly many parents will be willing to plonk their children with random people they don’t know in a strange environment. And they’ll take the piss and use up more volunteer time than they should because it’s free childcare and people take advantage of paid child care enough sadly.

Safeguarding is the biggest thing though IMO. Part of the training is recognising suspicious behaviour in other staff and how to report. A DBS only goes so far. Let’s say a volunteer was using their phone in front of the children, taking photos, using their social media.
Now in my previous And current settings my manager has the right to check my phone if they are suspicious of me and they need to be out of sight in the classroom. At the nursery they were locked away in the office. Would another volunteer have the guts to confront the other volunteer taking photos for example? Would a volunteer feel courageous enough to prevent a parent collecting their child if they appeared drunk/had no car seat/ appeared high/were a parent who was banned from seeing their child but turned up anyway?

I know thousands of people volunteer with children and follow these procedures. But they’re not left alone with only another volunteer who is also brand new, they are working with experienced people. This would not be safe.

TinyPigeon · 14/06/2020 21:31

Dominic dear you should really think these things through before putting them to Mumsnet...

HermionesMom · 14/06/2020 21:37

Women already do most voluntary work.

Why don't you ask dad's net?

Russellbrandshair · 14/06/2020 21:39

Yeah no thanks.

Firstly, I’m not having unchecked, unqualified, non medically trained volunteers watching my children.

Secondly where would I get the time to volunteer seeing as I’m a full time key worker who also has to help my kids with their school work? If wanting to relax in my very very minimal free time makes me selfish then sorry I’ll happily be selfish. I need some down time, I can’t be working non stop ffs

notangelinajolie · 14/06/2020 21:39

No way would I be an unpaid childminder so someone else could go off and climb their career ladder. If a person has made the decision to have children they should bloody well look after them.

FixItUpChappie · 14/06/2020 21:39

I'd much rather send the kids to the skilled, qualified childminder

This^^ - I'm not going to let my kids be supervised by some random stranger who volunteers. I have chosen my childcare very carefully like many I'm sure.

GabriellaMontez · 14/06/2020 21:41

How about the government in consultation with schools, reopen the schools so that children get the education that is their right?

The way that every other country in the developed world has managed to do.

Instead of expecting women (let's face it it will be ) to work for free to support families who have 2 wages coming in.

2bazookas · 14/06/2020 21:43

Don't baby-sitting circles exist any more? Friends sharing care for each others children?

Shoxfordian · 14/06/2020 21:46

I'm child free by choice
No way in hell I would look after someone else's kids

Crystal87 · 14/06/2020 21:47

No I've got my own kids to look after. I can't imagine anyone wanting to leave their kids with strangers or anyone wanting to look after kids they don't know. Anything could happen.

SpilltheTea · 14/06/2020 21:49

Providing free childcare to support randomers earning a actual wage sounds pretty shit.

DCIRozHuntley · 14/06/2020 21:51

@LonginesPrime quite.

Merename · 14/06/2020 21:52

I like the idea of everyone supporting one another, but in practical terms, I want to know exactly who is looking after my kids. It takes a village, yes, but you need to know the village. Even if people were police checked, I’d want a bit more evidence of their human decency than that.

MorganKitten · 14/06/2020 21:52

Everyone moans they want children back at school, but won’t help with this idea as they are too busy...

Educationwhateducation · 14/06/2020 21:53

I definitely would. I offered to help the Headteacher of my DDs’ school if she needed it and I meant it.
I work 3 days a week usually and the only problem I can envisage at the moment is that I’m working 5 days a week (afternoons) so that I can educate my children in the mornings. My time is stretched.