To be thinking about JKR's mental health right now?

[BabyLlamaZen]

I'm not going to patronize her enough to say I'm worried, but honestly! This is too muchm

Her initial tweet showed her how these issues were already concerning her (and she expanded on these fears in her essay). Then the response was disgusting and I'm sure can't have felt great (no matter how much she expected it). No one likes to read threats of abuse, especially when you have actually gone through what she has.

Then Dan Radcliffe throws her under a bus, a few more supposed follow suit. She spends time writing this extremely thought out (and incredibly reasonable, whatever your view) essay. She has to think about and bring up a very painful past. Then she STILL gets abuse for this, including rape comments. More Harry Potter stars including supposed feminist Watson denounce her. AND DON'T EVEN MENTION THE ESSAY!

Then The Sun shares the story from her abusive ex and throws his comments all over the front page?! Disgusting!

I know she's a strong woman and I hope as hell she's got people supporting her right now. Even for someone who didn't have a history of depression, this would be horrific.

Whatever happened to 'Be Kind?'

I dont think this is going anywhere for a good while :(

[Tomoveornotomove2]

What conversation has she got started exactly?

Being a biggot doesn’t win her any prizes, I’m glad The cast came out to shake her beliefs.

Imagine thinking that saying that stuff won’t catch you clout.

Also don’t imagine that you would also say this in public, just hide behind your screens.

[Userzzz]

It's horrible how she's being treated. I emailed her expressing my gratitude. [email protected]
I'm sure she'll appreciate knowing there are people that support her

[LemonadeAndDaisyChains]

I know she's a strong woman and I hope as hell she's got people supporting her right now. Even for someone who didn't have a history of depression, this would be horrific.Whatever happened to 'Be Kind?'

I'm sorry, but I find this utterly hypocritical.
I've often been told on here "women don't need to be nice" when challenged against something they said - from my point of view nothing to do with women having to toe a line, just people being generally decent to one another regardless of sex!
I've read about "hurty feelz" (actual words) and vile threads dedicated to actual singular people. Now it's what happened to be kind?
Seems only works one way

[Tomoveornotomove2]

So it’s “be kind” to a millionaire who wouldn’t give a scuttering shit about any of you, but be bigoted to trans people instead?

[Fearandsurprise]

Thank you Joanne for your common sense and bravery in speaking out for sex-based rights and for people who are same-sex attracted.

[LemonadeAndDaisyChains]

And I’m disgusted by her ex. No one deserves to be slapped. NO ONE

Completely agree. Utter, abusive arsehole.
What has the paper even brought it up for, why platform an abusive ex?
It's all toxic, on so many levels.

[CharlottesPleb]

I especially enjoyed Daniel Radcliffe archly telling women who qualifies as a woman (thanks for explaining all about womanhood Harry, that clears everything up), completely unironically and without the faintest sign of feeling a bit silly for doing so.

Men telling women what womanhood boils down to (and that basically being the mechanical requirements of receiving sex) is getting to be a bit of a theme these days. JKR is sensible and middle of the road on this, it isn't her fault other people are being a bit wrong.

[THEDEACON]

If you are here JKR you are not alone

[Fearandsurprise]

I hope Daniel Radcliffe is as accepting of all people who also self-identify as something they weren’t born as, such as Rachel Dolezal who identified as black. And is accepting of all the “Traniels” on Twitter who are identifying as Daniel Radcliffe.

[1SayT0mat0]

I think I worry about the mental health of trans children and adults more.

All this empathy for a millionaire and non for the trans community and their parents.

Be Kind

Talk about hypocrisy.

[Fearandsurprise]

@1SayT0mat0

I think I worry about the mental health of trans children and adults more.

All this empathy for a millionaire and non for the trans community and their parents.

Be Kind

Talk about hypocrisy.

It isn’t just about empathy for a “millionaire”.

It’s about empathy for the fact that millions of girls are never born because of sex-selective abortions in cultures where boys are favoured. And for their mothers who have to make that terrible choice.

It’s about empathy for the 200 million girls who have undergone female genital mutilation. *

It’s about empathy for the 1 in 3 women and girls who have experienced physical and/or sexual violence. *

It’s about empathy for women who have limits put on their lives - such as not being permitted to drive or to vote.

It’s about empathy for women who are paid less or treated less favourably at work, often associated with their perceive likelihood of needing maternity leave.

It’s about empathy for lesbians and gay men who are same-sex attracted.

It’s about empathy for the many people who do not want to identify with regressive and oppressive stereotypes.

People cannot identify out of their biological sex.

* figures from the World Bank.

[FatRa5c13]

And you’re laying all that at the door of trans children/ teens and adults.

How lovely.

[Oxyiz]

Does the transactivist response on twitter demonstrate their "poor mental health"?

I'm not sure about pity if so. The constant rape threats, gendered insults and "sick my lady dick" threats don't make me feel sorry for them.

They need to be kept away from anyone remotely vulnerable.

[Fearandsurprise]

@FatRa5c13

And you’re laying all that at the door of trans children/ teens and adults.

How lovely.

Not sure if that comment was addresses to me.

If so, then, no I am not laying that at the door of trans children/teens/adults. I’m not sure how you extrapolated that, but I’m happy to hear your explanation I can understand better.

[FatRa5c13]

And you’re not extrapolating.

Equally I think young vulnerable kids/ teens and their parents need to be kept away from JR/ anti trans activists on a parenting site.

As you were.I’ll let you carry on with the same old witch hunt. If you could tone the hypocrisy down a tad though that would be great.

[Oxyiz]

Bonkers.

[mungrymutt]

All this empathy for a millionaire and non for the trans community and their parents.

I keep see the reference to her wealth. Why does it matter how rich she is? Does it make her less deserving of empathy?

[FamilyOfAliens]

@FatRa5c13

And you’re not extrapolating.

Equally I think young vulnerable kids/ teens and their parents need to be kept away from JR/ anti trans activists on a parenting site.

As you were.I’ll let you carry on with the same old witch hunt. If you could tone the hypocrisy down a tad though that would be great.

Hypocrisy?

Have you clicked the link to the Medium article upthread with screenshots of the violent, misogynistic tweets to JKR for having the temerity to voice her own opinion?

Do you support the sentiments in those tweets?

[ahumanfemale]

Unlike many millionaires she's actually made her own, didn't start off with a fat wad of inherited wealth. And, she's a woman.

This makes her uniquely positioned to speak out. Because unlike the rest of us, she can't lose her job/income and she also has real-world experiences, like many of the rest of us.

That is the only way in which her wealth is relevant.

As someone who doesn't like "Be Kind" - because all that means is "If you don't agree with me I'll shame you" - I still can empathise with people.

Anybody who reads the responses to her tweets and thinks there's not a problem, or isn't willing to condemn them, or who doesn't see the big deal with the Sun (or the DM) reporting on her abusive ex, needs to reevaluate what "Be Kind" means, because they clearly don't think it applies to everybody.

Women have done the Be Kind mantra for eternity and look where it's got womankind? To the point where many of us are complicit in our semi-eradication. We exist, but only as defined by men.

And check out the law change in Scotland (29 May) if you don't see it. Men are men and women are women and men. We don't exist separately anymore under Sturgeon.

[FlamingFircones]

100% agree with @nothingcomestonothing.

#IstandwithJKR, even the bloody bbc news at ten referred to her 'controversial views' yesterday. What insanity are we living where saying that something literally true, is true, is controversial and fucking rape and death threats are publicly glossed over by the terminally woke little scrotes whose fortunes she made?

I have tweeted her and emailed her too giving her my support.

[RuffleCrow]

I worry about her too, but i've sent her a personal message of support and i know thousands of others will have done the same. She will have done everything she could to prepare herself for the misogynistic backlash (don't forget she got into this 'debate' because of what happened to Maya Forstater) and it sounds like she has a wonderful husband and a loyal team to support her. I hope this is one of those moments where being extremely rich and successful can take the edge off, but I don't know. I hope she's a MNer and is here reading our supportive comments.

[RuffleCrow]

@Tomoveornotomove2 i dread to think what a 'scuttering shit' is, but you should definitely make a zoom appointment with your GP if it's doing that. not envy.


On the contrary, JK Rowling only got into this debate because she cared so strongly about the way women less fortunate than herself were being threatened, attacked and silenced. It would have been the easiest thing in the world to sit at home counting her millions while the rest of us lost our protective single sex spaces in schools, hospitals and prisons all over the world and got threatened with rape and death for opposing it.

[mungrymutt]

As someone who doesn't like "Be Kind" - because all that means is "If you don't agree with me I'll shame you" - I still can empathise with people.

It's bullshit because its used to shut down debate & what they really mean is be kind to those I say worthy. If you think Trump is a dick how can you advocate for be kind?

[nellodee]

I have not seen one person disagree with JKR and yet also condemn the violent tweets made against her.

[JohnandMary]

I’ve emailed to express my support.

If a previous poster would like to supply the email addresses of trans children/teens/parents I’ll email them too.