That Mumsnet has people working to skew public opinion on the government

[Twinklelittlestar1]

I see hourly posts from people airing views echoing government agenda. They're often inflammatory and designed to rile people up or push an agenda.

For example with covid, I'm not saying that some people don't back this government's response to covid but the majority of people see that the government's response to covid has been diabolical and resulted in an unforgivable amount of deaths throughout England. Yet we get posters defending them to the hilt and I don't buy it. I suspect Mumsnet has become another source of influence with people working behind the scenes to influence public opinion and perception. I don't believe that Mumsnet is simply a community of people who've come to share interests or concerns, I think it's being used as a platform of influence (and I suspect it has for some time)

I fully suspect some retaliation of 'just because not everyone has the same view doesn't mean something else is going on'.

I just think it's worth considering that you shouldn't believe everything you read in the posts on Mumsnet...

I just think people need to be aware. We shouldn't underestimate the power of these subtle influences. I'm not ashamed to say that I was a little naive to the extent of it but of late it's become really apparent.

I constantly consider agenda when I read a newspaper yet I never considered the extent of the issue that platforms like Mumsnet are being used to brainwash influence.

MN tends to skew very far right wing.

I can only think you’ve no idea what an actual far right wing site would look like.

MN tends to skew very far right wing

No where near. A lot of media, including SM, is to the right, SM can be hotbeds of intolerance and awful stuff.

Mn is a range but it is not skewed far right. I’d say it is equally split between central to mid left and right.

Watch out for recurrent inflammatory themes from the less sophisticated ones eg
GE = ad hominem attacks on Diane Abbott. (I am not a Labour supporter but like many others I reported every one I saw)
COVID = BJ faked being ill to escape responsibility/ garner public sympathy (obviously NHS staff love him so much they would aid him In subterfuge )

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MN tends to skew very far right wing.

Hahahahahaha

Seems much more plausible that Mumsnet has people working to skew public opinion against the government.

MN tends to skew very far right wing

So that’s why I was called a murdering Tory c*nt (on MN) during the 2015 election?
I hadn’t realised it came from the right wing.
(Sarcasm)

I've been on MN many many years and I would agree it is in general less compassionate and more judgemental.
I equate these qualities with a more right-wing user group.
The feminist board is amazing, although I don't post there, I am humbled by the wonderful women on there working hard to
advance female opportunities and not give away our hard fought rights without a fight.

but the majority of people see that the government's response to covid has been diabolical and resulted in an unforgivable amount of deaths throughout England

And you base this in what? Please don't say 41K deaths (oh so predictable) our death rate is bad, but looking at the demographics it's probably what was to be expected, and needs a lot more unpicking.

I think the majority of the people think the government could have done a better job, but in the face of an overwhelming crisis, they did many things right.

I see and hear people saying, we shouldn't have locked down at all because of schools, jobs, economy etc. And people saying we should lockdown until there is a vaccine. The government chose somewhere in the middle. There will always be people critical based on political persuasion

Of course I could be one of those government infiltrators

I've been on MN many many years and I would agree it is in general less compassionate and more judgemental.
I equate these qualities with a more right-wing user group.

These are left wing qualities now. You should go on Twitter. The left are vile

I think that there are quite a few non genuine posts supporting the government, but I suspect it is conservatives or falsely created names registering and posting. Especially over the election, and over covid. I would be surprised if Mumsnet were in on it, and it would be a tricky thing to prove.

but in the face of an overwhelming crisis, they did many things right.

Boris happily promoted shaking hands with covid patients. He largely ignored the virus in the early stages (he didn't even attend the cobra meetings in the early days) this would be forgivable if he hadn't have been able to see exactly what was going to happen by looking at Italy. They failed to track and trace initially and locked down far too late, allowing the virus to spread undetected. They failed to provide enough testing and enough PPE for even our key workers (many other countries have given out ppe to the public in the street!) they then rushed us back out, ignoring most of their own science and advice from the Health organisation. They made a shambles of trying to reopen schools instilling a revault from many parents and total lack of confidence from a large proportion of the public. The fact that their economic agenda is placed higher than peoples LIVES disgusts me and is embedded in new strategies to try to reduce social distancing to 1m so they can make money from the hospitality industry. The rest of the world also seems to think we are a joke- a very morbid one which is actually just detestation. So, going back to your point, what exactly is it you think they got right?

I've been on MN many many years and I would agree it is in general less compassionate and more judgemental. I equate these qualities with a more right-wing user group
I think most people would attribute those qualities to the left wing now. MN being a good example of this

Case in point: "Boris happily promoted shaking hands with covid patients".

Boris was shaking hands with staff not with patients but facts apparently not that important anymore.

Unfortunately, I don’t think the kind of people you’re talking about are bots because I have a few of them on Facebook and they’re very real and genuinely believe Boris can do no wrong, they will justify absolutely anything that man does no matter how bad our outragoues, much like Trump supporters, it’s becoming more like a cult every day.

*outrageous

Twinklelittlestar1 "I fully suspect some retaliation of 'just because not everyone has the same view doesn't mean something else is going on'"

You call that retaliation suggesting that you are unfamiliar with the concept of a different opinion.

There could be bots I suppose, but I doubt it would be worth it.

Anyway I must be a bot since I think you're talking out of your arse about the covid handling. You might want to look at the way other countries have coped since they all doing pretty much what we are. The exact timings vary because this was all guesswork for everyone. You were told from the start that even the experts didn't know what to do for the best.

You say that "the majority of people see that the government's response to covid has been diabolical and resulted in an unforgivable amount of deaths throughout England" and complain that too many people here disagree, but who told you that was true in the first place? Was it a youtube video by any chance or facebook?

Like many others you seem to have forgotten that these are the deaths we and the other countries got despite lockdown and other precautions. It was explained carefully from day one that without taking precautions there would be be tens or hundreds of thousands more.

Best laugh I've had all week.

One word. Claig

mumsnet are not in on it, they can't control everyone who posts..but the site is definitely used by unscrupulous 'fake posters from marketing companies, political parties, and people with all kind of agendas. As a pp said it's particularly noticeable around election time.

the majority of people see that the government's response to covid has been diabolical and resulted in an unforgivable amount of deaths throughout England

Can you link to research that proves most people think this? There are a few words in there that don't sound like the sort of language that any reputable opinion pollster would use. Are you sure you're not a Labour bot?

(I think it obvious that there could have been fewer deaths if we had done some things differently, such as earlier lockdown. I don't know all the information that went into the decision-making though. Making wrong decisions, or taking a few days more than the minimum to make the rights ones, doesn't mean those involved have been evil, negligent or incompetent though.)

Putin definitely has bots. Anything that he thinks will destabilise the west - Brexit, a poor response to Covid-19 - there will be Russian bots on it. Any form of social media that is reasonably well used will be targetted in one way or another. The Conservatives pay outsourced companies to do this - see the Cambridge Analytica scandal. The Labour Party has Momentum, but it is self funded and, I think, slightly more scrupulous. You may think I am biased in thinking that, but given that the people in Cambridge Analytica made their fortunes attempting to facilitate regime changes in Africa, I think even Momentum can take the high road against that kind of background.

You may think this is all a bit tin hatty, but it is pretty well evidenced.

www.theguardian.com/news/series/cambridge-analytica-files

I just think it's worth considering that you shouldn't believe everything you read in the posts on Mumsnet...

No 💩 Sherlock 🕵️‍♂️

But I think there's a lot from both sides of any political/trans/other contentious issue.

As someone with no dog in this fight as it were, I've noticed a preponderance of left wing views here, often closely correlated with anti-American views. And people who seem to be looking at an issue from a politically conservative point of view are either ridiculed or vilified or both.

I'm an independent who usually votes for Democrats but I think that we shout down divergent points of view at our peril.

One word. Claig

Another, Makeourfuture.