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Fallon12 · 11/06/2020 18:57

Hi looking foropinions and advice please.

I would like to be less upset by my mil and keep things positive as dh and I are trying to improve our marriage.

Mil and I got on okay before dh and I had children. I found her a bit overbearing but we were fine in social situations and could have a decent conversation. We would sometimes exchange messages.

Eldest child was born a few years ago. Long difficult birth and recovery. Mil and fil came to stay for a couple of weeks after dh went back to work. Dh job takes him away for a few weeks at a time. I invited pils to stay as I was unwell postpartum and thought they'd be useful support. As they live overseas, by the time they arrived I was much better and so apologised when they arrived that they had cut short their holiday as I was better now.

During their visit, mil did many things which upset me. For example:

  • baby fussing at breast is normal behaviour, mil would glare at me and at my breasts and made various comments... " do you have enough milk?" " what's wrong with the baby?".. she did this so many times. If I left the room for privacy, she would follow me and continue making comments
-she continually wanted to hold my baby, fil said several times, "Whose baby is it dear?"
  • when I took my baby back she would glare at me or look moody
  • if she heard baby stir during night, she would knock on door and want to do changing etc. Was not needed and I found it so intrusive. Dh was still away, I explained to him how I felt, he said just tell mil she won't mind. I told mil thank you but it's not necessary to help me in nights, she responded "ok, whatever"
  • when she and fil were due to go back home, mil told my dm that she thought I "wouldn't cope" looking after my baby, my dm recounted this to me which made me feel furious

During my eldest's first year, any time ils visited, mil would want to take my baby. If baby said "mama", mil would make a "nuwnuw" noise even though it was clear she said mama. Once i walked into the room, baby said mama and tried to crawl to me, mil blocked her way with her arm then glared at me. Dh missed all this.

This contributed to issues in my marriage that year as dh thought mil was oblivious and well meaning and didn't initially believe my account of mil behaviour.

I never confronted mil but just tried to assert my boundaries, I'll take her back now and taking baby back. However as soon as dd back in my arms, mil would clap her hands and open her arms to take dd back. I hated their visits as she acted like dd was hers. I was nice to dh about these issues, I told dh I thought it was because dd was effectively their first gc, mil is from a Mediterranean country where extended family are v involved, mil also has some emotional issues and i think this impacted. All in all, I avoided conflict, tried to be respectful and I think did not make my boundaries clear and suffered for it. Dh offered to talk to her, I said no. He eventually made one small comment and mil backed off a bit.

Every time ils visit, ils make little criticisms of dh and our home, dh seems not to jotice. Mil always seems to view our home as a project, nothing is ever good enough, eg she rearranges everything, cupboards, suggests where things can be moved, suggests cleaning products, tells me how to get stains out etc.. We do not live in a hovel and I have lived away from home for over 15 years so do not need mothering. I once asked her if she did her dsils laundry and rearranged her house during visits, she replied "oh no, her house is pristine" which I found offensive. Both pils have also given good help, I don't mind uf they ask if we need help it's more the suggestings things or just rearranging which I find rude.

Mil also pushed wife work on me which I rejected. For example, dh has a huge family. If someone from my side of family sends gift or card for children, I thank them, dh is supposed to do same for his enormous family but don't think he remembers to. She appears to have stopped now, but mil used to ask me, not dh, if x y z had been sent a thank you card etc, until I asked " have you asked dh?". Mil used to ask me what to buy children for Christmas, so I asked her to ask dh. She doesn't appear to do these things now.

When we had second child last year, ils came to visit with dhs siblings. Mil seemed to be less obsessed this time round. I decided to invite ils to stay while dh was away. I took mil to toddler groups etc, was polite, kind. I even asked if theyd like to stay longer, they stayed far longer than I had anticipated but I felt unable to say no. Mil gradually got more possessive of my new baby. As soon as we were awake she was outside my bedroom door, 530/6am arms open to take my baby. Ignoring my toddler to a large extent, obssesed with baby. A member of my family commented to me that mil seemed "strangely obssesed" and was glaring at toddler and ignoring her. Mil made bizarre comments, baby cried and mil told baby "i wish i had milk for you, i wish i could feed you". My baby missed feeds as mil held her so much and questioned me if i wanted to take her back, "why, are you going to feed her?" I said no i just want to hold her, shes my baby then mil would glare or look moody. I actually got mastitis as my youngest missed so many feeds. I felt shit the longer my pils stayed. Eventually I asked mil to give me some space and she and fil left that morning, refused lift to station etc, made it dramatic. I told dh all this, there is even more of same incidents. Dh offered to approach her but I said no. He had previously told her i found she undermined me and she was apparently horrified... dh seems to believe me but says he only has my side of it. I think shes also made rude comments about me to my toddler who has come out with never heard before things directly after ils visits... mummys got a big bum, we are never coming here again, etc etc

The issue i have now is that mil is messaging me on social media weekly and I really do not want to be in contact. Dh agrees pils should not stay again without him there. I want to delete mil from my social media but imagine it will cause a row. Im tempted to tell her my thoughts but unsure how to word it.

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Fallon12 · 11/06/2020 21:48

Dh and i are trying to rebuild our marriage so i posted now Bout this as i need to be clear to him my boundaries with his mother as her behaviour has caused tension between us before.

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Daftodil · 11/06/2020 22:36

I don't think you have been clear about your boundaries because it sounds like you don't know what your boundaries are yourself. You invited PIL to travel from another country to help you on two separate occasions. They obliged and then you don't like it that they offered to help you when they were there!?

My sister stayed when I had DS1 and offered to help in the night and it was very much appreciated (DS had reflux and needed burping for ages before could be put down after a feed so there was little time for me to get to sleep before he was awake again). My sis took DS to burp and settle him so I could get some sleep between feeds. Perhaps your MIL had a similar experience when DH was a baby and that is why she was offering help in the night?

Wanting to hold the baby is a perfectly normal thing for a grandparent to want to do. Offering help to someone who has asked for help is a perfectly normal thing for anyone to do. I really don't think she is trying to upset you, it genuinely sounds like she is acting from a good place and wants to be helpful and useful to you. If she had visited and had not offered any help, how would you have felt about that?

DH offered to intervene and you say no, but you haven't discussed things with MIL yourself. How can anyone else know what you want or where your boundaries are if you don't tell them?

Fallon12 · 11/06/2020 22:55

@daftodil

Mil wants to hold my baby, youngest and eldest when a baby, from moment we wake till bedtimr...thats not normal. I am not exaggerating. She wants to do every nappy chanfe, playtime, clothes change and makes me feel uncomfortable to want to hold my own baby. That is not normal.

I asked them to stay when my eldest was young as I was unwell, by the time they arrived i was not unwell so I told them this as soon as they arrived and apologised they had travelled so far. Dh suggsted that they came, not me.

When they came most recently, i did not ask them to come to help me, i asked them to visit to see them and so my children could see them. I hoped mil would not act so hurtfully again but she was worse. Some things she does are helfpul but not expected or asked for, most is intrusive and rude eg sorting through dirty laundry i find oversteps the boundary.

I know my own boundaries but she pushes them continually. I am a confident person but have always been cautious as i have seen her be quite hysterical before years ago about something else and i am aware she has had mental health issues and she is dhs mum so ive not wanted to have a fall out, i have spoken to dh at length but he finds it hard to assert himself.

She is really possessive and her behaviour is unsettling in person.

No one else on either side of the family or any of my wide circle of friends act in this way. I offer everyone to hold my baby and eldest when a baby. It is not me. My family members have noticed her behaviour without me mentioning it.

I forgot to add, during last visit i also overheard her criticising me to fil which really upset me as i had invited them to stay to be kind.

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indemMUND · 11/06/2020 23:21

Don't enable any more of this bullshit. Cut all ties between you and her. Delete/block on everything. She is your DH's mother and therefore it's up to him to deal with her. You've told him about all of it. He might not be assertive but this isn't your problem to manage. You've given enough chances. Don't engage yourself any more. Maybe once it's all focused on DH because she can't target you then he'll finally stand up to his mother when the batshit pressure builds on him instead. Might make him think twice about how much you've put up with.

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