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AIBU?

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AIBU...difficult friend/now work colleague...

53 replies

Candlequeen2 · 10/06/2020 08:48

Need some advice please as feeling very anxious about this whole situation.

Became friendly with a lady I met through a mutual hobby a few years back, she's a little younger than me so in slightly different places in our lives in that I have a lot going on, not much spare time outside of work (Other than said hobby) due to commitments with looking after parents, kids etc. Happy to strike up a friendship initially, we are in a similar line of work so had that in common, exchanged texts and attended a couple of social events (perhaps 1-2 a year) as a group with others.
As time went on, she became more & more demanding. She is often ill/upset/had an argument with someone quite a lot of the time and often has very eventful things going on in her life (not taking away from the fact that must be really hard) & would often call/text using me as a bit of a soundboard, never checking how I was getting on.

She once sent me reams and reams of messages/calls regarding her own issues, the day after I'd had a close family bereavement (which she was aware of as I had messaged the group to explain why I wouldn't be attending this week). Similar things have happened many times. Also if the response is delayed, there is often a "guilt" element. One occasion a year or so ago she texted a couple of times and I was working so didn't answer... & then she's text again to see "just to let you know" she is being rushed into hospital, and then when I texted/called back to say I'm sorry to hear that and for late response is there anything you need, she was already home & fine (2-3 hours later). On a couple of occasions if I haven't answered due to being caught up or having my own stuff to deal with, she will get her husband to message me saying she is upset or usually something to make me feel guilty for not replying saying she needs support. For context, I have never met her husband, she has also in fact never been to my house or spent time with me 1-1.

If I'm being honest I think she feels we are closer than we are, I do feel guilty, but the friendship was having a detrimental effect on my mental health. I sort of gradually pulled away and we still text from time to time politely how are you etc, but have resigned from this role of constant support. She does have other friends, one of whom I believe has now replaced me in this role.

Anyway, all fine. Until I recently found out she has now accepted a job at the same company as me. I absolutely love my job, and now I am dreading going in. She is the type of person who everyone loves at the first meeting, very extroverted and charming (I am not), but that tends to then slip away after a while when people feel a bit bulldozed especially if people have their own things going on. Therefore I am worried how I'll be "painted" if I'm on the wrong side of her. Also, since she has accepted this job, the long messages have begun again!! About similar stuff, always paragraphs about an incident or problem... I sometimes wonder if its the only way she knows how to communicate with other people and its not intentional. But I cannot have this in my working life.

AIBU to try and sort of cut this off but remain professional...? Any advice would be so appreciated. I also am aware that now this is in a work environment, I don't want to look unprofessional. I feel as though I will probably be introduced as her "close friend" to others, so I may look like a horrible person then! Its so difficult.

thank you

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Mary46 · 10/06/2020 20:06

Great advice here. Dont get into lunches with her. Found I gave reasons why I could not!! Busy today. Errands to do. You dont want her to latch on!!

CJSmith2019 · 10/06/2020 20:19

Keep your distance would be my advice and do that from the beginning. As for the texts, delete half of them, or more. Don't bother reading them. They are only making you stressed. Blame your phone. It's very difficult to deal with someone like that, imo, so that is why I would start as I mean to go on, if I were you.

Candlequeen2 · 10/06/2020 20:35

Thank you ever so much everyone for all of your great advice so far. I think as you have all advised, keeping a polite distance is the way to go, so I will do this from the word go.

@TheThingWithFeathers There is one person I could tell at work, but I am fearful of this as she can be quite popular at face value and I don’t want to seem unkind. However if it came to that, there is one colleague in particular I think I would trust to confide in.

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Candlequeen2 · 10/06/2020 20:35

@TheThingWithFeathers sorry, when I say she can be popular I mean the “friend”, not the colleague.

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ScrapThatThen · 10/06/2020 20:46

It's hard. Polite and aloof is the only option really. Wait for the charm to wear off.

saraclara · 10/06/2020 21:04

I'd tell her that you're afraid that you'll no longer be able to be friends on FB as you have a no colleagues policy.

I don't even have ex-colleagues that I worked with for 20 years and consider friends. It's too difficult because their FB friends who are colleagues then get to see I'm there and want to friend me. I'm strict about compartmentalising my life, as I don't want colleagues speculating or commenting on what I do out of work.

saraclara · 10/06/2020 21:06

...and yep, in work, remain entirely professional and don't get caught up in any conversations with her that aren't about the job. Likewise if she tries to talk to you about work when you're at home, tell her you don't discuss work out of hours.

Fishfingersandwichplease · 10/06/2020 21:17

If you do text her back, make sure you don't ask any questions that will require her to reply....just answer her questions with a closed answer. Hate situations like this, feel for you OP xx

Sugartitss · 10/06/2020 21:23

Pretending to be busy and replying to texts will be exhausting so you’re going to have to be brave and have an honest chat with her op.

GalwayGrowl · 10/06/2020 21:32

Will she be able to see your work calendar?

I took to setting up lots of fake lunch meetings in mine and blocking other lunch breaks out with "private" when I had one of these friends.

CantSleepClownsWillEatMe · 10/06/2020 21:49

Lots of good advice here but can I just add that you need to anticipate where you might get thrown together at work and have plans in place to avoid that before it arises.

So for example if there’s any possibility your manager might suggest you “show her the ropes” on discovering you know each other, you need to get your spoke in before she even starts. If one of my team told me they’d prefer not to train or mentor a new colleague they already knew, I’d take the hint that they wanted to avoid mixing personal and professional and wouldn’t push them together.

Is there any possibility she might suggest traveling to/from work together? If so you need to have your answer ready: Oh I’m afraid I can’t commit to that, I have a lot to juggle in my non working hours.

Lunch: Ensure you’re not available any day through her first week. You’re having a quick sandwich as you have to nip to the post office/go to the shops/sort out your broadband. Hopefully she’ll get the message that you’re not going to be having cozy lunchtime chats.

Work queries: Don’t let her get into the habit of coming to you with her queries. Redirect her: Ooh I’m not sure, you’d have to check with HR and I don’t mean to be unhelpful but tbh they prefer that you go through these things with your manager/trainer, that sort of thing.

Forewarned is forearmed!

Candlequeen2 · 10/06/2020 23:16

Thank you so much, everyone.

Luckily I don’t think I will have to show her the ropes (hopefully, but will clarify) as our roles are slightly different, so I wouldn’t know some of the systems she needs to use, however there could be potential for “show her the canteen, photocopier etc.” So will nip that in the bud ASAP.

I do appreciate that in an ideal situation a frank conversation would be more appropriate.

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eatsleepread · 10/06/2020 23:22

Wow, she really does have zero self-awareness. She's manipulative, needy, attention-seeking and dramatic. Not a good combo for a healthy, two way friendship.
YANBU.

SissySpacekAteMyHamster · 10/06/2020 23:30

I would be careful of speaking to colleagues about her beforehand. It could look like you're poisoning the chalice somewhat.

She might be very professional at work, and not the drama llama you know.

Wait and see how things go and try not to catastrophise (sp?) too much.

Just go to work and do your job, no change to how you normally do. She will probably be pretty preoccupied for the first few weeks. If she asks work related questions, pass her to someone in her department.

Happynow001 · 11/06/2020 00:16

@Candlequeen2
Whenever you have an email, text or phone call pop up from this person take one or two slow deep breaths, relax those clenched stomach muscles and fingers and smile. Don't rush to answer, fill awkward conversational gaps etc. Instead, inhabit your Xena Warrior Princess persona (Google her) to deal with her - and any other time you need to be assertive. Xena is no people pleaser. You'll find it easier the more you do it I promise you! Good luck! 🌹

justilou1 · 11/06/2020 02:11

Never a better time to set up an “Out of Office” email/Text response auto reply.... (even if it’s fake and just for her!) - you ARE taking leave, after all.

Ithoughtiwastheonlyone · 11/06/2020 02:32

"Hi. So much time has passed, our interactions should only be on a professional level. I am no longer interested in a friendship. People change".

Zoflorabore · 11/06/2020 02:42

Hi op, I was reading your op and it was screaming at me that this woman has some sort of personality disorder, probably EUPD.

I have experienced this a few times, a family member has it and I was wrongly diagnosed with it! classic traits are being very attached to people and catastrophically going from one “disaster” to the next.

Mine was eventually diagnosed with ADHD after I pointed out that rather than be attached to people, I prefer to be on my own! That’s another story but I read up on everything about it because I was told that I had it after one session with a psychologist.

It seems that you are viewed as a close friend, almost like family in her eyes. It’s a tough one because you don’t want to rock the boat at work but also need to make it clear that the “relationship” is very much casual and only down to hobby.

Is there someone at HR that you could speak to just to have this on record that you’re quite concerned over your work being overshadowed by this situation?

I would absolutely hate this. You spend so much time at work and love your job. You now feel as ignorant it’s somewhat tainted.
Try not to bad mouth her. You sound lovely anyway so am sure you wouldn’t but you need to be very careful how you approach this.

Very best of luck Flowers

Zoflorabore · 11/06/2020 02:43

if not ignorant.

Crystaltree · 11/06/2020 03:06

I wouldn't lay groundwork. You know her through a hobby. That is all. Especially do not mention before she arrives that she is often ill. That will become apparent in due course and it's not for you to poison people's opinion of her. In fact do not mention her at all unless you need to.

Have some kind of a plan for the first time your paths cross in the workplace. She is likely to gush and over play your friendship, so I would be sure to take the initiative and say something to nearby people like "this is Jessica, we've done some abseiling together" ie politely and firmly locate the connection in the context it belongs.

Candlequeen2 · 11/06/2020 07:56

Thank you so much everyone. @Zoflorabore I have had family members who I am confided in ask me that. There have been numerous other incidents which have made me question this, but didn’t want to mention too much to be on the safe side.

With regards to her feeling I am a ‘close friend’, that is definitely the case. We all meet up on a Thursday for practice and in the past (when communication was more frequent) We once we had close non-mutual friends to stay for the weekend from Scotland which appeared on my social media. She then alluded when I arrived up on the following Thursday that it would have been “nice” to be invited... she had nothing to do all weekend etc. However, it would not have even occurred to me. Incidentally, she doesn’t know a great deal about me/my life, as she never asks.

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Candlequeen2 · 11/06/2020 07:57

Sorry, a few spelling mistakes there above. Morning coffee needed.

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Paperdolly · 11/06/2020 08:30

I had a friend like this and because I let her dump on me about a certain issue for about 2 years I became her enabler to carry on. Once I stopped being the good listener she sorted the issue out herself within a month. I am not as available to anyone as much as I was then. Life lesson learned. 👍🏻

Candlequeen2 · 11/06/2020 10:18

@Paperdolly excellent advice. Thank you. I do think her previous behaviour was a bi-product of my compliance to listen. So that is definitely a lesson learned for me, not to be so available. Thank you :)

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Happynow001 · 11/06/2020 16:59

Incidentally, she doesn’t know a great deal about me/my life, as she never asks.
Good - I'd keep it that way especially after seeing she wants you to invite her to your home for events nothing to do with your hobby.

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