Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Anyone know the building regs for internal doors in a flat?

10 replies

GimmeAy · 09/06/2020 20:37

So, I'm in a council flat - I would say 70's/80s latest when it was built. There are 4 internal doors - kitchen, bedroom, bathroom and living room.
The living room one is not painted it's just a hollow plywood affair that the handle won't stay on, as there's no grip so to speak to hold the screws in.
The other 3 doors appear to be the originals - solid doors - but they've been painted so many times that they're just lumpy messes of bubbles of gloss. The kitchen door is a fire door.
I was getting quotes to replace them and one company said that the bedroom door should also be a fire door (It's not).

Council states that tenants are responsible for all internal doors (they are in the same state as they were when I first moved in - a mess really).

Question:

A: In a flat, does bedroom door need to be a fire door and if so, is it council or tenant responsible for upgrading?

B: Should ALL internal doors be fire doors in a flat (as one guy who quoted said)?

OP posts:
GimmeAy · 09/06/2020 20:41

PS I rang the council and they said that I should consult with them if replacing any doors, so I was put through to a different department who told me the same thing and when I pointed out that I was consulting with them via this phonecall, the lady said to stop shouting and that she'd transfer me to a team which could help. She didn't. She hung up.

OP posts:
Thingsdogetbetter · 09/06/2020 20:43

Dh is builder. If it's a new build then yes all doors open onto an means of escape need to be fire doors.

If it's just replacement then nope. But he advises fire doors if you can. Especially to the bathroom if It contains the boiler.

cabbageking · 09/06/2020 20:45

If you are replacing a door, then like for like is accepted.

A new build will have different rules about doors leading off the stairs.

I would replace with a fire door but that is your choice.

GimmeAy · 09/06/2020 20:47

Not new build - as I said - 70's or 80's at a guess.
So council won't upgrade to meet current regs I take it?
Fire doors are fuck-off expensive, so there's not a cat in hell's chance of me putting in all fire doors.

Thanks for the responses though. I'll just replace them with like for like.

OP posts:
GimmeAy · 09/06/2020 20:50

Oh and boiler is in kitchen.

Thanks for the informative responses.

OP posts:
hoxtonbabe · 09/06/2020 23:05

I thought the council had to ensure internal doors were all fire doors too. I can’t remember where I read it. Just before the lockdown my HA were fitting some in a couple properties and It was a couple of weeks before my fire risk assessment by the brigade so I could get my HA to change mine but then corona started .... well you know the rest

Ravenclawgirl · 10/06/2020 02:06

Building regs are not retrospective,they only apply to new builds. As you say fire doors are expensive so councils and HA's are unlikely to replace them. They are more likely to replace front doors in flats than internal doors.

user1473878824 · 10/06/2020 02:57

You need a surveyor, not mumsnet, sorry. But you could invalidate your lease doing something wrong

Isleepinahedgefund · 10/06/2020 06:52

It depends on how high up the block you are. Fire safety in flats is all about compartmentalisation - fire doors is one of a number of measures.

If you fit new fire doors they should conform to the current standard (FD30) regardless of the age of the property. The regs are only not retrospective as in when the standard changes you aren't required to replace all the doors - but if you do choose to replace them you have to ensure they meet current regs.

Best place to ask is your Local Authority's building control or your local Fire and Rescue Service - they are the two enforcers of fire safety regs.

If you want to read guidance you can look for Approved Document B (fire safety statutory guidance on building regs) and Building Safety Advice for Building Owners.

GimmeAy · 10/06/2020 07:19

As it turns out, I got a second quote yesterday evening and the guy is just going to sand and repaint the existing doors as it will work out cheaper for me. Thanks for the advice nonetheless.
I wanted nice doors, but alas the budget doesn't stretch to my frivolitiies.

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page