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To say that estate agents outside of London are incredibly lazy and lack initiative?

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FizzAfterSix · 09/06/2020 17:56

I know it’s a cliché to bash estate agents but I’m at the end of my tether.

For 18 months I have been registered with a clutch of estate agents in Surrey. Despite being a cash buyer with a very comfortable budget and nothing to sell, they all seem half asleep.

Many don’t even respond to enquiries via Rightmove; if they do they just email you the same information that is on all the property portals. None follow up with a phone call to check out my requirements.

2 weeks ago I saw a beautiful house and emailed the agent via Rightmove for more information. Days later I received a desultory email sending me the same pictures that were already online and that was it. No follow up phone call, no suggestion of viewing. When I telephoned I spoke to a disinterested person who knew very little about the house – when I asked about viewing she said that due to lockdown restrictions this wasn’t possible. But now the property market has reopened – albeit with restrictions – I have heard nothing back from her suggesting I view – even just a walk around the garden would give me an idea. This house has been online for 8 months, with such a hopeless agent I’m not surprised.

While property portals make the sellers and buyers life much easier in many ways, they have also had the unfortunate result of making agents even lazier. Before the internet they had to be proactive, calling up prospective buyers and matching house to buyer but now they can’t even be bothered to put a brochure in the post.

I viewed a house last week that I was interested in. The agent followed me around closely, even around the garden – so closely that I wanted to say, “tag me now and get it over with”, (did she think I was going to run off with the garden gnome) annoyingly announcing “this is the kitchen”, “this is the bedroom” and opening cupboards I really didn’t want to see inside. Note to agents: I am not going to buy a house because I like the vendor’s airing cupboard.

After manifestly ignoring any social distancing at all (nurse!) when I asked for a brochure at the end of the viewing, the hapless agent said they weren’t handing out brochures due to corona restrictions. I asked if she could send me one and she reluctantly agreed – a week later and nothing has arrived.

Nothing beats a proper colour brochure that acts as a constant reminder to actually pick up the phone and arrange to view. But agents simply hate having to send them out. Sometimes they pretend they can’t do this as they want to `save paper’ - a likely story.

And then that evening, I saw that this agent has launched 2 other houses in my price range and just what I’m looking for but didn’t bother to even let me know or take me round when I viewed the first.

I’ve found London agents work much harder than country ones. It’s so frustrating that outside London they expect the seller to do all the work. I can’t think of any other industry which is so entirely reactive and doesn’t bother to follow up leads.

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Sandybval · 09/06/2020 18:52

Estate agents don’t need buyers, they want sellers.

Not sure how long they would stay in business if they just had loads of sellers and no buyers Confused

pigsDOfly · 09/06/2020 18:53

Also, agents don't make money from buyers, it's sellers they're interested in.

How does that work then?

Tiktokcringeydance · 09/06/2020 18:54

Sorry, I dont understand -

Yep, you’ll be known locally as a time waster. Also, agents don’t make money from buyers, it’s sellers they’re interested in

Surely theres no money to be made unless someone actually buys a house? If they had hundreds of houses on the market and no buyers interested then they wouldnt make much (any)money...? Am I missing something obvious?

WhoWouldHaveThoughtThat · 09/06/2020 18:55

Well 'Out of London' Estate' here and I feel it important to say that is just not... Oh can't be bothered actually.

1Morewineplease · 09/06/2020 18:57

Surrey, eh?
That might be your problem.
EAs will have a list as long as your arm in Surrey and will probably only react to deal with quick buyers.

Elphame · 09/06/2020 18:59

I agree - most are terrible.

Our last 2 purchases have been cash sales so no money to be made on the financial services side. That is often the problem unfortunately. Sale of related financial products is a big earner for them.

RogersVideo · 09/06/2020 18:59

I'm in Yorkshire and estate agents don't even do the viewings, the seller does.

Tappering · 09/06/2020 19:07

When we sold our old place our EA was brilliant. Our buyer was quite chilled out (thankfully, as we had loads of problems with our purchase) but our vendors were a fucking nightmare. Our EA rolled their sleeves up and got involved regardless, and were really helpful in saving the chain and getting everything through. Our vendors' EA deserves a special place in hell though.

A good EA is worth every penny you pay them, but there are loads of bloody lazy and incompetent ones out there.

WhoWouldHaveThoughtThat · 09/06/2020 19:11

Well 'Yorkshire Estate Agent' here and I feel it is important to say that ... oh I can't be bothered actually. Can thou do it yourself?

Elphame · 09/06/2020 19:12

I'm in Yorkshire and estate agents don't even do the viewings, the seller does.

Probably a good thing. Listening to the agent showing a prospective buyer around my house I was tempted to throw him out and do it myself. It was one of the staff who had never been to the house before and it showed. The audible gasp when he opened the door to the en-suite was most unprofessional ( it was seriously huge - 20sqft easily with a sunken bath, twin wash basins and a huge walk in shower)

FizzAfterSix · 09/06/2020 19:14

I did make a good offer on an unmodernised bungalow on half an acre in Barnes.

The vendor was in her 80's and there were swirly carpets and an interestingly situated loo in the corner of the sitting room, but I fell madly in love with the garden which would have been perfect as I am a patron of a dog rescue charity and would love to do some dog fostering and hedgehog rescue.

The agent was telling buyers that it would be possible to knock the bungalow down and build something else, or even build another property in the garden, but I knew this wasn't possible as the vendor had put in numerous planning applications over the years and they'd all been turned down.
Despite this, she and the agents kept telling interested people this was a possibility.

After I put in my offer the agent said the vendor wouldn't negotiate with me as I had dogs (I only have 2 elderly rescue bichons) and since then it's gone under offer a few times but come back on the market when the buyers discover there is no chance of building in the garden.

It's so disappointing in this day and age that agents obfuscate in this way. I felt they were lying about the owner not wanting to sell to someone who had a dog and wanted to put me off as I knew there was no planning opportunity. They instead preferred to take their chances with garden-grabbing cowboys who disappear as soon as they realise they've been sold a pup.

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FizzAfterSix · 09/06/2020 19:22

@Elphame TBH, sometimes sellers are so desperate that they are very off-putting. Some want to show you the provenance of every tree and discuss the boiler in mind-numbing detail - I think they just have too much skin in the game.

But then again, agents can follow you around so closely I just want to say "tag me now and get it over with", or perhaps they can operate a frisking system when you leave just to make sure you haven't run off with the pot pourri.

Last week the agent opened all the vendor's cupboards - it felt depressingly prurient to see the vendor's underwear in great detail.

Note to agents: I am not going to buy a property because I like the vendor's airing cupboard. Sorry about that.

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OneNewName · 09/06/2020 20:37

Terrible experiences here too.

PleasancePark · 09/06/2020 20:42

Just so pleased to see an MN thread bashing something other than teachers...😂

TheChestnutCafe · 09/06/2020 20:45

Agree op.
We bought our current house last year - cash buyers - and I lost count of the unanswered emails I sent about houses we were interested in, phone calls not returned, etc.
Nightmare and incredibly stressful.

phoebemcpeepee · 09/06/2020 20:51

Used to work be a London estate agent and knew most of the buyers better than my clients (the seller). I remember getting on the phone to serious buyers before I'd even been on a valuation if I thought it would be their perfect house and a few even ended up (quite willingly) paying a buyers fees to secure it off market. Even in a quiet market a decent agent shouldn't have properties on for too long. When I moved out to the Home Counties I was shocked and thoroughly depressed how dismal they all were and vowed never to work there myself in case I morphed into one Grin

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