To Think The Met Police Has Lost All Control

[JediJim]

I know London has for a long time now had a problem with gangs and stabbings and of course shootings.
I’ve just seen a video on DP’s Facebook of two Met Police Officers running away from a crowd of people. One of them looks like he was pushed to the ground.
This is in relation to the George Floyd protests in London.
Now I understand people want to protest peacefully after such a terrible death but we are supposedly in a lockdown ( of sorts). But surely chasing down two police officers is unacceptable? They are just doing their job and want to go home to their families.
People are angry. But it wasn’t the Met that killed George Floyd.
Seriously, what has the country come to when Police Officers are running away from a mob in the centre of London?
I really think that the Police have lost control of London, and I wouldn’t think that many will be happy about Policing the capital when the risks are too high.
I think there will be a point when Police will be reluctant to do their job with fear of either getting sacked or worse getting killed.
Respect to any of you that work for the Met, you are being failed by your government and your employer.

yanbu. But expect a pile on from posters who think the other way and think that the protesters are perfectly entitled to do whatever they like.

..and, FWIW, I think most of the protesters are fuckwits who are jumping on a bandwagon.

But OP, what would you prefer? Order or justice?

Or some such shit.

I do hope the police analyse the cctv and prosecute the offenders. Protest is fine but rioting and violent behaviour is not.

First your mention gangs and stabbings/shootings then the protest

Under the question have The Met lost control

No police should not be attacked as shouldn’t those the police arrest

And no the Met Police have not lost control we do not live in anarchy

One is about crime driven by drugs (and everyone that buys them is complicit in this)

One is about protesting against racism

I’m no longer in the Met - (another force now) but I have friends and family who still work there and watching what went on yesterday I shudder to think of them amongst all that.

We all kiss our partners and kids goodbye and head off to work to help people - officers don’t deserve to be met with that aggression.

I wouldn’t say the Met has lost control in general but things yesterday certainly weren’t under control and my heart went out to those policing London yesterday.

Yanbu,

People should be allowed to protest peacefully and by and large they have been doing. It's just the usual case of the few dick heads that sadly make it onto the news pages. I'm sure the met will be reviewing the CCTV as we speak.. masks may make that a struggle though

This is not the USA, which is good as we'd have white and black morons walking around with open carry!

You might have my sympathy....if it wasn't for the 'institutional racism' that the Met proudly suffers from.

"I saw a video of an incident and now I think the police have LOST CONTROL OF LONDON"

You're totally right, OP - it's ANARCHY here right now. The rule of law has been overturned, the capital had fallen to the mob, flaming bonfires on every street corner, human sacrifice, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria, etc

Or nope, that's not happening. FFS.

No the Met didn't kill George Floyd. But his death didn't happen in isolation did it?

They killed Mark Duggan, they killed Jean Charles De Menezes, they killed Azelle Rodney...

@TinyPigeon
Mark Duggan was an armed criminal. The police handling may have been flawed but if you carry weapons you run the risk of being injured.

The Met police are guilty of institutional racism though, aren't they? Three words "Stop and Search"

Apologies, they “only just” killed these people instead. As well as being institutionally racist🤔

I agree that the Uk has big problems with racism.

However, the police deserve to be able to do their job without physical or verbal harm. Being chased down the street is unacceptable.

Stop and Search is an emotive subject but it's not racist in itself. The application of ot may be but I think it's an easy target for a more complicated picture.

The Met police are guilty of institutional racism though, aren't they? Three words "Stop and Search"

That's to do with crime stats though, or they are looking someone with a certain description.

@TinyPigeon How exactly is Mark Dugan relevant here (or on various placards I’ve seen)? He was a dangerous criminal who chose to carry a firearm. A court found the police shooting to be lawful. Comparing his death to George Floyd is downright offensive.

The deaths in custody you show are tragic butbissbit racism or under resourcing? In some cases individuals are difficult to deal with and pose a significant threat to themselves and others, these will be errors but more so when already stretched services are cut. Perhaps calling it racist is too simple and makes the issues harder to fix

@TinyPigeon Azelle Rodney was in a vehicle with 3 weapons reportedly on his way to rob a Colombian drug dealing gang. Not really a good comparison.

Protest is fine but rioting and violent behaviour is not.

Sadly that’s the only way to get change.

Deeds not words.

How soon we all forget how our own freedoms were won.

@NameChangedToProtect1

The deaths in custody you show are tragic butbissbit racism or under resourcing? In some cases individuals are difficult to deal with and pose a significant threat to themselves and others, these will be errors but more so when already stretched services are cut. Perhaps calling it racist is too simple and makes the issues harder to fix

I think the issue is multi-layered and may well include institutional racism. A lot of it I think is due to chronic underfunding of mental health services and the police. They are just not equipped to deal with significant mental health issues, and nor is the prison service.

I was meant to say that’s often the only way to get change.

unfortunately some of these people are not protesters they are using the situation to have a go at the Police.
Shame because the protest it important.
But why do those attacking the Police think that it is ok?
They wouldn't get away with that in China or various other countries.
Be proud we are able to make peaceful protests.

The whole country is a shit show at the minute. This is not just a London thing. It’s in every city in the UK. The just aren’t enough police anymore. That’s the long and short of it.

I can't believe the idiots on here that think that Mark Duggan was some kind of victim.