To wonder why people are even talking about "bubbles"

[schoolsoutforcovid]

"Bubbles" can't exist in schools. All of this 15 to a class business is bollocks, lots of kids have siblings. So I send my year 6, year 1 and year 3 (key worker group) kids back to school. Then they come home....surely the "bubble" is burst?

The percentage of risk using the bubble system will have been calculated, including how many families id does and does not work for. It will make sense for some, and not seem to for others.

This isn't about reducing the risk for YOUR family, so saying 'this makes no sense because my children 'x', and their bubbles 'y' is missing the point. You're part of the calculation. You've already been accounted for. And maybe the bubble system reduces risk by 50%, so it might only work for half of the families/children. But that's better than 0%

We get it OP - you don't want schools to go back because you don't want to send your kids back because you're not happy with the risk. You crack on and some of us will crack on sending our kids in because we ARE happy.

Oh no wait - you want to take that ability to choose away from us as well don't you? Haven't we had a million and one threads about this already.

Perfectly happy with how bubbles are being implemented in my kids' schools, perfectly happy with how the risks versus benefits versus detrimental effects of them NOT being in school balance out for us - so bubble off please.

It's 'Families' in my school.

It’s not completely sealed bubbles, it just reduces contacts.

I have children in different schools and am a childminder, and collect children from a different class - it’s still vastly fewer contacts than usual.

It’s not meant to remove risk but to reduce it.

This.

The risks have to be balanced, and you accept some in order to mitigate others.

I'm lucky to work in a company where we're able to prioritise risks purely to see family and friends, but we accept those carry risk too.

Pandemics aren't fair.

@thecatsthecats

Pandemics aren't fair

I've had heated debates with people. Why didn't I just say this??! I will be quoting you henceforth, if that's ok

It’s to track and trace contacts and then self isolate those.

Your year 6 bubble if infected will be sent home along with brothers and sisters.

This will mean the other children in bubbles can stay at school

This is long term

@GreenTulips

It’s to track and trace contacts and then self isolate those.

Your year 6 bubble if infected will be sent home along with brothers and sisters.

This will mean the other children in bubbles can stay at school

This is long term

It will be long term but I predict it will soon move to whole class bubbles with the rest of the rules in place so everyone can get back to school.

It reduces risk. Ds has no contacts outside of school apart from us so those in his bubble are his only other direct contacts. Not all children have siblings and not all families or children will socialise with other people.

@DominaShantotto

"We get it OP - you don't want schools to go back because you don't want to send your kids back because you're not happy with the risk. You crack on and some of us will crack on sending our kids in because we ARE happy."

This whole situation has really messed with your head hasn't it? Where on earth did you get the idea I'm not sending my kids to school? Because I think everyone blindly talking about "bubbles" in the way they are is ridiculous. When these "bubbles" are spoken about it is in a way that implies a level of apparent safety that doesn't exist

I think there’s a danger in saying “well this won’t work perfectly so we won’t try”. Keeping kids in small groups in schools will lessen the cross-contamination, and will allow them to have more space in the class, their own desks etc.

My ds is back at school, yr1, but not my dd as they didn’t have space or enough staff for yr 6. But if they were both at school in different bubbles then yes they’d mix at home, but it would be less risk than the whole school just mixing together.

Within the bubbles at my school, social distancing rules still apply. That's why they can only fit up to 10 children in each one, and depending on the room and its location, some have fewer than that.

I don't want to go into the politics of it but we are where we are. Schools are as usual caught in the middle of the political and economic storm and trying to do their best with the contradictory and (in many cases) poor information coming out to them.

Unless you are a key worker or your DC are vulnerable OP, you have the choice whether or not to send them. However, if you choose not to send them in, please don't complain on here about the faff or hassle of supervising your own children.

It’s farcical because of reasons already stated. My y6 has met with five friends. My y10 has done the same. Yet they are all randomly being allocated to bubble.

Again, it’s the use of the word bubble, as in ‘protective bubble.’

It's not about you, @CountessFrog

It will work for some, and that's enough to make it a viable option. It doesn't have to be the solution for every family. Just some, to lower general risk.

Simple solution
Homeschool your kids for ever
Let my kids go back and get on with their lives
At least if all the paranoids keep their kids at home there'll be more room for mine
You've made your choice now let me make mine
And I bet all the "mine won't go back till it's safe " bleaters will still be demanding that school proved online teaching and will
Have their kids back in school quicker than you can say Covid20

@schoolsoutforcovid

that implies a level of apparent safety that doesn't exist

What level of safety have you been told will be created by 'bubbles'?

Our bubbles don't mix. Each class stays in its allocated room and area of the playground at different times.

It's not going to be risk free, but it does reduce risk.

I'd much rather come into contact with 10 children, than 30. Especially knowing some have not been following the distancing guidance out of school anyway.

Hobnobswantshernameback

HOW is other parents not sending back their own children impacting you?

If nothing else, it means yours will have a place. There are enough cases of willing children being refused because there was no space left.

So again, why do you care?

We are not talking about home schooling, of course keeping children at home means they are still entitled to online teaching and they are still receiving it.

But again, why does it bother you? Jealousy? Miffed that you think others are having an advantage that yours don't have?

I am curious why people like you are so petulant about it when it doesn't affect them in the slightest.

I think the Government has pushed the term bubble as it implies safety, a nice gentle place to be, completely enclosed without any risk.

Of course all schools and parents know that that isn't the case. But many are using the term as it is then consistent terminology across the board.

The bubbles will remain as just them, as much as possible, within school. Once the children go home the bubble is obviously no longer in existence. We just have to hope people are sensible when out and about.

I care because those of us who just want to get on with our lives are screamed at that we're as good as murdering people by trying to get back to normal
The dementors screech and screech and seem to be this vocal bunch you cannot reason with
And some seem to actively want to stop normality till it's this mythical "safe" ergo stopping the rest of us from making our own risk assessments

And bollocks does it no affect us

@Hobnobswantshernameback are you ok? How is that a "simple solution" to the ridiculous and blind use of language that I'm talking about? What has got you and @DominaShantotto and so many others like you worked up into this rage? I haven't said I'm not sending my kids in.

@Eckhart sorry what? I'm talking about the implications of the term bubble in the sense it is being used, not what anyone has been "told"

So when educational provision is offered in school you want teachers to provide work for the kids in school
And those who's parents are choosing not to send them
Cracking my teacher husband will be thrilled to hear that whilst delivering as much time table as he can and playing frantic catch up with years ten and twelve over the next six months he's also got to get onto google
Classroom and zoom umpteen times a day because Jinny's mummy won't send him back till it's "safe"

Not in school
Bloody typo

CountessFrog some families are choosing to limit the number of direct contacts and the bubble in school enables that to happen.