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AIBU?

so pissed off and worried about meeting tomorrow at 9am

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Sarah510 · 02/06/2020 18:09

so we have a big work meeting tomorrow. I've done loads for it, data, spreadsheets, etc. But my team leader refused to check it (although yesterday she said she wanted to go through it to check the calculations, which I was glad about cos it's easy to make a mistake). So she 'wasn't available' all day today, there was a short meeting on teams around 5pm and she was at it too, so I tried to catch her after it, but she left really quick, and when I emailed her saying I was here, did she want to check stuff with me, she replied to say I was to 'forget about it'. Am so pissed off. Feel like she's going to probably throw me under the bus tomorrow morning if she does check it and find any errors, or else, if anyone else finds errors, I will be shown up in front of everyone. So I'm sat here going through it all one more time. I think it's really mean of her not to even talk to me. Don't know what I've done except work my ass off.

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CuppaZa · 02/06/2020 18:53

It’s up to you to check and double check.

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MintyMabel · 02/06/2020 18:59

think it's really mean of her not to even talk to me

That’s something my 11 year old would say.

Your boss shouldn’t have to check your work.

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BittersweetMemories · 02/06/2020 19:00

At my work, everyone's spreadsheets are to be checked by a colleague before submission.

We are often dealing with spreadsheets with over 64,000 pieces of unique information that changes on a daily basis so of course it is possible for there to be mistakes...

A fresh set of eyes can make all the difference and my more senior colleagues check my work and I check theirs so I don't really see why everyone is being so harsh.

It's vital that the information is accurate as its being used for Very Important Things so it makes more sense for everything to be sense checked than face a bollocking from global HO for one incorrect cell, and they will ignore the 63,999 that were correct!!!!

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WitsEnding · 02/06/2020 19:00

Have been undermined by Programme Manager in similar circumstances.
I'd be inclined to open my presentation by saying how good it is to have fresh eyes on your work, as you've been labouring away in isolation from the rest of the team.

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Brefugee · 02/06/2020 19:03

If it is usual procedure that she would have checked this work before it's presented and she's avoiding you (for whatever reason) find a diplomatic way to say this before you make the presentation (such as "due to the way we're all WFH and tight schedules this hasn't been as thoroughly checked as usual"). Check it again yourself as much as you can.

And if you can ask her afterwards at a time when you're not under pressure, ask her why she didn't follow normal procedures. I'm head of quite a big team but when i do a big piece of complicated work i get someone else to run their eye over it, just in case.

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PomBearWithoutHerOFRS · 02/06/2020 19:07

I might be being bad minded here, but if she opened the file earlier, and has editing permissions, you need to go over it again just in case she has added a mistake to drop you in it at the meeting....

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GrandAltogetherSo · 02/06/2020 19:08

Fuck me, some people are incredibly obtuse on this thread.

It’s not about needing her Boss to check the figures. It’s about having a boss who plays games and point scores.

OP is worried that Boss lady will trawl to find a fault at the eleventh hour and then drop her in it to further her own agenda.

OP, been there, got the T-shirt, left the job.

Just let her do her worst.

My bitch of a boss received EXACTLY the same treatment from her NEW FEMALE Boss and ended up leaving. She also tried to sue the company but failed. Hmm

Last I heard, about a year ago, extremely senior Boss also left after she complained about being bullied in her job.

So you see, Karma will get them all in the end. Grin

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PawPawNoodle · 02/06/2020 19:14

Why couldn't you just email it to her in the morning along with any other relevant information and say something along the lines of 'as discussed please review the attached, if I don't hear from you by before the meeting tomorrow it'll be presented as currently drafted, please come back to me with any questions'

Thats what I'd do in future.

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Teawiththat · 02/06/2020 19:19

It's not unreasonable to have someone check your work, especially the first time you have done something. If the manager didn't feel this was reasonable then instead of avoiding OP she should have just said. Threads like this make me so thankful for my workplace where we actually support eachother. Is there anyone else who is maybe working flexibly and will still be working OP? I would be happy to look through something for someone if they were nervous about a meeting tomorrow.

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Teawiththat · 02/06/2020 19:21

Also back stuff up with email, if she does throw you under the bus and say she should have checked it first then you have proof you asked. I'm sure you'll be fine though!

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dontgobaconmyheart · 02/06/2020 19:21

Check it again , for yourself OP, so you can be as sure as you can be it is ok, and any changes made by her are also ok.

There seems limited point worrying about something that may never happen. Nobody here knows why or indeed IF she is actually avoiding you at all but since you say you will both look bad, she either trusts it is fine surely or will check before 9am.

Do you think you are experiencing anxiety for some reason OP? Are you always this anxious about these things? That is not a criticism, so much as to say might it be about other things or indicative of a bigger problem that might benefit identification.

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thenamesarealltaken · 02/06/2020 19:23

Hi, maybe she'll email you if there's a problem. She might have a lot on and just need to do it in her own time when he head is free of orger things. We don't know yet. If there are errors tomorrow, I'm sure, as you're a team, you won't be left unsupported, I hope.

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PinkiOcelot · 02/06/2020 19:27

Some bloody nasty self righteous arses in this thread!!

Good luck tomorrow. Hope all goes well.

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Blackdoggotmytonguestill · 02/06/2020 19:27

Sounds as though she was slammed, didn’t want you to worry over it any more, and has checked it out now to go over it as you requested. I can’t see the issue, really? Working remotely means staff have needed a lot more support and reassurance than normal and sometimes there aren’t enough hours in the day. By all accounts she’s now looking at it. She probably has no idea that you are spying on her to see if she’s looked at it and assumes you are having a carefree evening while she catches up.

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Purpleartichoke · 02/06/2020 19:33

Everywhere I have worked has required a second person to check calculations. Sometimes if I am having someone I am training be my checker, I add in a mistake on purpose or put something odd in a footnote. If they don’t catch it, I know they aren’t checking closely enough.

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Sarah510 · 02/06/2020 19:33

thanks for the support.

Blackdoggotmytonguestill the trouble with that is, is that I've heard her absolutely trash other colleagues, saying they left all the work to her, and that she had to go over everything herself and was left all alone to do all the work. I just didn't want that to happen and have a feeling she is moaning about me even as I sit here.

I have a feeling too that she is going to update my work, and "improve" it and then present it as her own, or that she 'saved the day' as I was 'off' for the evening.

I just think she could have talked to me for a few mins, just even looked over the document, and if she didn't have time to number crunch she could have delegated. I used to feel sorry for her getting left with 'all the work' but i'm wondering now.

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Silentplikebath · 02/06/2020 19:37

I would start your presentation by saying that your figures haven’t been checked in the normal way by someone more senior as the team is so busy so please let me know if you spot any glaring errors. Everyone will know exactly what has happened!

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bringincrazyback · 02/06/2020 19:58

Those who are baying that the OP should be responsible for checking her own work - what do you think quality assurance is for?

(OP, I'm not implying your work isn't quality. lol I'm making the point that checking work has a purpose. People are people, not machines, and as such mistakes do get made.)

Hope it goes well OP and hope she doesn't do a 'Working Girl' and try to pass your work off as her own!!

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Eckhart · 02/06/2020 19:59

I think that if she said she wanted to meet with you tho check over something you were going to present, and then didn't, that's rude.

I don't think the question is about whether it's right that your worked should need to be checked - you know your workplace and how things are normally done.

It doesn't sound like you trust her. Is this the culmination of her pissing you off on a regular basis? It feels like there's more to it, because otherwise you'd just assume she was very busy at the moment, and move on.

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Swimmingwiththebees · 02/06/2020 19:59

@Sarah510

thanks for the support.

Blackdoggotmytonguestill the trouble with that is, is that I've heard her absolutely trash other colleagues, saying they left all the work to her, and that she had to go over everything herself and was left all alone to do all the work. I just didn't want that to happen and have a feeling she is moaning about me even as I sit here.

I have a feeling too that she is going to update my work, and "improve" it and then present it as her own, or that she 'saved the day' as I was 'off' for the evening.

I just think she could have talked to me for a few mins, just even looked over the document, and if she didn't have time to number crunch she could have delegated. I used to feel sorry for her getting left with 'all the work' but i'm wondering now.

She could be looking to 'throw you under the bus' and get all the credit. She could also have known that she wouldn't have had time to look at it until very late in the day and didn't want to force you to stay online to look at it then too... It's difficult to know without seeing how it pans out.

Some of the advice on here is good and I reckon your best bet is to check she doesn't want to add or change anything before the meeting tomorrow (with an email to her tonight making clear this is your final version of the sheet and if she has anything to add can she let you know before x time tomorrow so you can send the sheet out in advance of the meeting). If she doesn't add anything make it clear in the meeting that this is a 'working version' of the data that hasn't yet been subject to full review so you appreciate any comments from people about how it looks etc.

Good luck. I'm sure you've done a great job.
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PicsInRed · 02/06/2020 20:01

Double checking is bog standard for complex spreadsheet work. YANBU.

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Imohsotired · 02/06/2020 20:10

Definitely not being unreasonable. I would expect peer review for what you're describing.

Maybe she had something going on? It doesn't paint her in a good light if there happened to be a mistake so she must have had her reasons.

Best of luck

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mudpiemaker · 02/06/2020 20:12

Get an email out to her tonight to confirm that she didn't check it, cover your arse. Always have a paper trail.

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Kljnmw3459 · 02/06/2020 20:23

Yyy to a paper trail. If she does throw you under a bus you need emails to show that you did ask her to check it etc. I've worked with complicated calculations and data and it's always been a standard procedure to have a "verifying " process to minimise possibility of any mistakes. It's how companies protect themselves from costly errors.

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rachb2019 · 02/06/2020 20:28

No complex spreadsheet goes anywhere without a second pair of eyes check in the company I work for. It's a breach of our compliance procedures to not get it checked.

No matter how many times I check my own work, somebody always spots something - and the same when I am asked to check the work of somebody else. YANBU.

The only irritation for me is when somebody asks you to check their work, they make the updates, and then want you to play a game of tennis where they want you to check that they have made the updates correctly. That's not something I can get involved in.

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