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To be infuriated and deeply disappointed by this response from Flick Drummond, my MP

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Claliscool · 28/05/2020 13:30

Absolutely flabbergasted at the 'let's move on' rhetoric. I wrote expressing my bewilderment at bjs support of dc at such a critical time and this was the response :

Dear.... ,

Thank you for your email regarding the recent matter of the Prime Minister’s adviser Dominic Cummings. I have received several hundred emails on this subject, making the case on both sides, all of which I am reading. I hope you will forgive me sending you a standard response, as otherwise it will be impossible for me to reply to everyone in a timely fashion and there are also many other constituents whom I am trying to help access Government support. I have made the Government very clear of the strength of your views and of the many others I have heard from.

I have never met Dominic Cummings or his family and wanted to wait until I heard all the facts before writing back to you. Having watched his press conference, I understood why he decided to drive to isolate himself in a cottage on his parents’ farm where he could get help from his family had both he and his wife become incapacitated. I have no idea what his childcare arrangements are in London, but it is difficult to place a four year old with people that you do not know. As a mother myself, I have always put my children first, so I can understand this.

We all use our own personal judgement and common sense during crises and this seemed to be a hurried and last minute decision from a worried father at a stressful time. I fully appreciate that many people did not feel that they were able to make the same decisions while undergoing similar or in some cases even worse hardships, and I understand the very real hurt and the anger this has caused.

I do not agree with his trip to Barnard Castle. People were allowed to drive to exercise if they have no local place to walk and this does not appear to have been the case in this situation.

I was disappointed to hear that his home and family had been targeted by the press and others at the beginning of the lockdown and hope that they will now leave his family alone.

There are many other key issues at stake in this difficult time and I am concerned that we are losing focus on those while attention is diverted by this matter. I want to concentrate on helping those constituents who still need my support and work on how we are going to improve our social care system.

I realise that this incident has caused a deep sense of anger, disappointment and frustration for many people, which I completely understand and which I am relaying to the Government. I feel incredibly sad for all of you who have lost loved ones or have not seen family for some time, some of your emails have been heart breaking. I hope that you have now been visiting family outside the home if you are able and I am sure that we will be announcing the further lifting of restrictions very soon.

The most important thing now is that we continue our progress in reducing the infection rate so that we can come out of lockdown and things can begin to return to normal. I will continue to support the Government as we move forward to get Britain back to work safely.

Thank you again for getting in touch. Keep safe and well.

Kind regards,

Flick

Flick Drummond MP

Member of Parliament for Meon Valley

OP posts:
Claliscool · 28/05/2020 14:32

That's exactly it - these people are failing this test of absolutely basic integrity. It's shocking.

OP posts:
mondaynoon · 28/05/2020 14:33

I think they have all realised that no one can believe the Barnard Castle eye test story so they're having to admit that and hope they can just tell people to move on.

BeingonFBdoesntmakeittrue · 28/05/2020 14:34

It's a lot longer and more detailed than I would have expected.

georgialondon · 28/05/2020 14:39

No not at all a Tory but I don't know what kind of response you expected. It's fine.

Bluebellpainting · 28/05/2020 14:42

As Alex said she used to be the MP for Portsmouth. She made out how she was local and understood local issues when in reality that was not true. She did a poor job then IMO. I’m not surprised by her letter, I got a very similar stock response from her when I wrote many years ago about junior doctor strikes, including telling me how my understanding of the new contract was wrong, I didn’t understand the issues that doctors faced and that her daughter (who was training to be a doctor at the time) felt the contract was good. I was actually a junior doctor at the time so that made me laugh. At least she wasn’t my MP for long as we move often when in training.

Fifthtimelucky · 28/05/2020 14:46

I agree that it's a good letter.

MillicentMartha · 28/05/2020 14:46

My (Tory) MP has replied very similarly. But he doesn’t even state that the Barnard Castle trip wasn’t wrong. It’s all about, ‘I’m sorry you feel that way,’ and ‘I’ve passed your concerns on to the relevant people.‘

Another local (Tory) MP has been much more critical. He’s on the Guardian list. www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/27/list-grows-of-tory-mps-calling-for-cummings-to-resign So some Tories are as angry about it all as I am.

SerendipityJane · 28/05/2020 14:46

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To be infuriated and deeply disappointed by this response from Flick Drummond, my MP
Laaalaaaa · 28/05/2020 14:48

Get over it. This is getting tedious now. He shouldn’t of done it but all this complaining is getting petty.

SerendipityJane · 28/05/2020 14:54

It's amazing how naturally the language of abusers comes to Tory lips.

I'm sorry you feel that way ...
Let's move on from this ...

and the DC "defence" skirted close to look what you made me do ...

And I - for one - will gave a damn huge thanks to Mumsnet and it's accumulated wealth of experienced posters for opening my eyes to that.

10 years ago, I would never have noticed it.

Somerville · 28/05/2020 14:55

We'll get over it when he has the same standards applied to him as other rule-making rule breakers and loses his government job.

queenMab99 · 28/05/2020 14:58

The point is, his judgement is flawed, he tried to cover it up, he made up a silly story about testing his eyesight, and he still has great influence on the government. What appalling decision is he going to make next?

NiceTwin · 28/05/2020 15:02

Her energies are better spent helping her constituents access government help. There are many small businesses who may never recover from this, they need help

You need to get over it and move on. It's not healthy holding onto so much anger.
Maybe Boris should be admired for not doing the easy thing and throwing him under the bus to appease the rabid mob Grin

Spotsonmyapples · 28/05/2020 15:03

I can see why you're annoyed OP. He didn't need to place his child with anyone else (first of all because they both weren't sick enough, second of all because his neices/sister could have come to him - as guidelines allowed - if they had become so). Many people may have felt their place of isolation was not safe and there were official channels to go down for help. One call to the Police/Downing Street saying they were unwell and isolating in their home but felt unsafe due to journalists/protesters etc and that threat would have been addressed or they would have been given leave to move residences.
The Barnard Castle thing is not the sticking point for me. If an MP defends Cummings' actions as understandable, reasonable, within the guidelines then sick people can move all around the country and use whatever local healthcare they pitch up at on the off chance they need childcare. It's a dangerous precedent and undermines public health during a pandemic.
And Tory MPs do have power over BJ, collectively they're about the only people that do until an election.
I'd have settled for an apology. It's the defense of his actions and the gaslighting that gets to me and that's exactly what this letter is.
Either apologise that he broke guidelines, or apologise for writing and communicating the guidelines so badly that thousands of families suffered needlessly when they could have had help.

Bluebellpainting · 28/05/2020 15:03

Seems DC’s latest slogan Let’s move on seems to be working unfortunately.

SerendipityJane · 28/05/2020 15:04

The point is, his judgement is flawed

No. What DC did or did not do is immaterial now. So there's no point in discussing it any further.

Much more worthy of discussion is the response of the cabinet and government in trying to gaslight an entire nation like some low rent bully boy abuser (as noted). If we never heard the name "Dominic Cummings" again, it wouldn't shift the debate now.

Frezia · 28/05/2020 15:06

Spineless I agree, though at least she tried to acknowledge that his Barnard Castle jolly was out of order.

My dickhead of an MP just replied: "As you will be aware, Mr Cummings held a Press Conference on Sunday and explained his reasons for doing what he did. It is now time to move on."

Like we're all half-wits for not buying into that bizarre heap of lies. In other words, 'Your betters have spoken, now shut up.'

ric12 · 28/05/2020 15:21

@toomuchpeppapig

"Of course those making the rules don't always feel the need to follow them."

DC didn't break the rules.

ric12 · 28/05/2020 15:22

@Frezia

"Like we're all half-wits for not buying into that bizarre heap of lies."

Can you specify what lies have been told?

GeneticTest · 28/05/2020 15:23

To those of you complaining that your MP hasn’t responded - some of them have had thousands of emails about this.
It takes time to log the emails accurately and send a response back (whether letter or email).
How long would it take you to answer a thousand emails and log according to GDPR?

ric12 · 28/05/2020 15:25

@Laaalaaaa

Get over it. This is getting tedious now. He shouldn’t of done it but all this complaining is getting petty.
Agreed. They're only going after him because they resent Brexit and the Tory election victory.
saraclara · 28/05/2020 15:25

I've not heard anything back from my useless excuse for an MP. Though she's been on Twitter saying how nasty the press were for standing outside his house.

WeAllHaveWings · 28/05/2020 15:26

Your MP is toeing the party line publicly to save their own neck. I would have a long memory and would not be voting for them or their ilk at a local level again.

I would write back with your disappointment at a standard letter which minimises the issues and has no cognisance of the points you raised and your worry over their lack of concern over the damage, which will cost lives, done by DC actions and subsequent "story" rather than the actions themselves. As a senior aide he should have been even more aware than most the importance of compliance and the guidelines and it undermines the governments messages going forward.

ric12 · 28/05/2020 15:32

@Claliscool

Are you all serious?? Are you all tory voters and think that they can do no wrong or if you do, close ranks and protect the party interests by towing the party line?? Move on?? This is corruption. Right here.
How is it corruption?
SerendipityJane · 28/05/2020 15:37

DC didn't break the rules.

That's become irrelevant now. It's the government effort into defending him that's the story.