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To think clothes shouldn't be made from plastic?

40 replies

QuestionableMouse · 28/05/2020 00:00

www.evans.co.uk/en/evuk/product/clothing-7810902/kimonos-coverups-3717251/red-floral-print-patchwork-kimono-9723384

100% Polyethylene.

Aibu to think it isn't right?

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thenightsky · 28/05/2020 00:04

I don't know what Polyethylene even is! I'll ask DD as she is a garment technologist, but I don't think I'll get an answer at this time of night.

NotMeNoNo · 28/05/2020 00:07

Suspect a typo for polyester. Polyethylene fabric is like tarpaulins and stuff I think.

QuestionableMouse · 28/05/2020 00:08

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyethylene

I'm assuming it's essentially polyester. Still ewww though.

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MrsEricBana · 28/05/2020 00:09

Polyethylene = polyester. So it's synthetic like loads of clothes, not a silk kimono. This, like plastic, is made from petrochemicals.

NotMeNoNo · 28/05/2020 00:09

Yeah they have a vest in the same print marked Polyester. Which is also plastic, of course.

thenightsky · 28/05/2020 00:10

As predicted, DD hasn't replied to my message. I'll let you know what she says tomorrow.

MrsEricBana · 28/05/2020 00:11

Fleeces are also, essentially, plastic in that they made from lightly spun polyester threads.

Destroyedpeople · 28/05/2020 00:12

Was going to mention fleece material. Isn't that plastic? Certainly it melts..

womaninatightspot · 28/05/2020 00:16

I suppose an upside of the lack of oil demand due to covid 19 will be that plastics are more expensive. Maybe we'll get lots of lovely cotton clothes next season.

NotMeNoNo · 28/05/2020 00:17

"Plastic" encompasses many polymers quite a few of which are used for textiles/clothes. This time last year we were all concerned about synthetic clothes and microfibres washing out of them.

Blackbear19 · 28/05/2020 00:21

YANBU its incredibly bad for the environment. Produces tons and tons of micro plastics that come off in the washing machine and end up in the oceans.

Then they must take decades to breakdown when they eventually end up in landfill (yeah, yeah via the charity shop worn to death, back to the charity rag big, used and binned as an oiled rag).

But at the same time man made, oil based fabrics are used in a lot of technical and outdoor clothing. So have a real advantage over natural fabrics. However I believe for everyday clothing we should be using natural fabrics.

Oh and womens clothes are worse for sneeking in plastics than men's.

TheHighestSardine · 28/05/2020 00:25

Viscose. Plastic.
Nylon. Plastic. Hard to do without tights.
Polyester. Plastic.
Fake leather. Plastic.
Fake fur. Plastic.
Rayon. Organza. Taffeta. Fleece. Elastic. Waterproof membranes. Thread. Zips and buttons and velcro and reinforcing tape and interfacing and padding and and and...

Most clothing is partly plastic. Some is wholly plastic. They're not intrinsically bad, and can be lovely - I've had viscose shirts and dresses that feel like silk.

Blackbear19 · 28/05/2020 00:32

Is Viscose not made from bamboo ?

QuestionableMouse · 28/05/2020 00:34

Viscose is made from cellulose which can come from a range of sources. Not plastic though.

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NotMeNoNo · 28/05/2020 08:13

If we don't wear synthetics we are left withw cotton (high water demand) wool ( those sheep belch methane) , silk (boiled bugs). Linen/hemp not suitable for everything.

There's almost no fibre or material without a significant environmental cost somewhere in its life cycle, the only solution is to massively scale back new clothes and throwaway fashion and get much more use out of what we have or selectively buy.

Sorry bit of a hijack!

KittenVsBox · 28/05/2020 08:31

Rayon is also from natural cellulose, along with viscose.

donquixotedelamancha · 28/05/2020 08:50

If we don't wear synthetics we are left withw cotton (high water demand) wool ( those sheep belch methane) , silk (boiled bugs). Linen/hemp not suitable for everything.

This. If we did not use synthetic fabric the cost of clothes would be massively higher for little environmental benefit.

I can't see why oil products are bad in clothes but not the millions of other applications we use every day.

Most modern materials are based on polymers. Without them everything would be wood, metal, ceramic, stone or the fabrics listed above.

HeyDuggeewhatchadoin · 28/05/2020 08:54

Rayon can be made from bamboo.

redwoodmazza · 28/05/2020 09:33

Silk is made from the threads of the silkworm - not the silkworm itself!!!

QuestionableMouse · 28/05/2020 11:20

It's a personal thing but my skin reacts quite badly to polyester and nylon. I but decent natural fibre clothes and look after them so they last. Its getting harder to find nice stuff though.

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Nottherealslimshady · 28/05/2020 11:25

I'd have thought it's a good material. It's a side product of fuel production. Surely they'll be long lasting so we can keep them longer. It's a better use than carrier bags. I'd rather wear plastic than leather, fur, wool, silk.

SerenDippitty · 28/05/2020 11:32

I’ve seen clothes made from recycled plastic bottles. Good idea in theory, not in practice as plastic microfibres come off them in the wash and end up in the sea.

SpiderPlantSally · 28/05/2020 11:36

What do you think acrylic, polyester, and fleece fabric is made of? Check the labels - I bet almost all your clothes have some element of plastic in them. My DD's school blazer has a label inside which says "Made from recycled plastic bottles"!
It's pretty hard to find pure cotton / wool clothes these days unless you're willing to spend a pretty penny!

Northernsoullover · 28/05/2020 11:39

It is hard to find natural fibres and they come with their own environmental cost. However, I think we all need to think about how much clothing we buy.
Fast fashion is the biggest culprit..where are all those peplum tops now? Cold shoulder tops? Think before you buy.

AriettyHomily · 28/05/2020 11:41

I bought a pair of gym leggings without realising they were made from recycled bottles. As @SerenDippitty says the theory is good, but the microfibres wash off and they are totally unsuitable for working out in - it literally feels like you are sweating in plastic wrap. Mine will never be worn again.

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