No social bubbles

[octoberbundle]

Reports are looking like there won't be social bubbles any time soon. Just needed to vent, have been focusing on this to get me through, the idea that my mum could come visit and stay with me, both to see her and help look after my baby and three year old so I can work easier. Absolutely gutted that it looks like this won't be happening any time soon 😢

*You'll get a bed in ICU
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Oh give over.

It infuriated me seeing these sorts of comments thrown around. It's simply not true. Expanding your social bubble in a responsible and common sense manner is not going to end with everyone in hospital. Get some perspective

I'd let your mum come. I am making my own rules now. Like countless others I have struggled on in extremely difficult circumstances amd have frankly had enough. My DS nursery is opening up next week and he is returning. As my step mum provides some childcare he will also be returning to my dads. This means I will also be returning to my dads.

I havent seen my mum since February, like countless others, so in 3 weeks time she is going to come up for the day. I do not plan to go anywhere else, I will maintain social distancing when out (though pregnant and suffering from HG so not much going out here) and we will be sensible. But the draconian measures for me are over.

@Slothfull

If we can have non essential shops open and go back to work / school then you can get fucked if you think I won’t go and see a family member and sit in their garden

Exactly. So people can pop into Next but I can’t see my grandson? Fuck off.

completely agree with this!!

I think part of the anger about DC is that people are finally realising that they were too quick to swallow the 'stay at home regardless' message, and are partly angry with themselves as well as with him and his arrogance.

I agree. People are feeling angry and betrayed partly because they feel they have been taken for mugs. And given that this was at the end of March, right at the start of lockdown, when people were being shamed by the police for having a walk up on the moors and the "people are DYING!" narrative we were being fed was at its height makes it feel worse.

I was discussing with one of my employees her return to work this morning and talking about what measures she would feel necessary and what she would be happy with being asked to do. She's been taking lockdown extremely seriously despite being only 26 - she hasn't seen her boyfriend closer than 2m, hasn't been to the shops, has been disinfecting her shopping, hasn't seen friends. One of the things I took from the conversation was that she needs to feel that all this has been worth her personally choosing to do it.

Everyone i know who is not vulnerable/elderly has woken up to the pointless overreaction of the lockdown and is visiting friends & family, primarily in gardens.

Meeting one household every two weeks is very sensible and easy to keep track of with contact tracing.

I understand the impetus to keep the economy going but I have no desire to scout around various shops and put myself at risk that way, if I can’t even visit my mother once a month. You need to count on people’s good will too.

Can you find the article on Sky's website OP? I couldn't find anything, apart from one saying the government are still thinking about this.

So are we back to saying that we won't be hugging our loved ones outside our households until there's a vaccine?

Aren't France and Italys version of the "bubble" to allow mixing within households?

I'm sure as hell hugging my loved one.

So are we back to saying that we won't be hugging our loved ones outside our households until there's a vaccine?

I really really hope not. I am not overly close to my family and don't see them very often anyway, but I haven't been nearer than 2m to my boyfriend of 3 years since just before lockdown (didn't see him at all for 8 weeks) and am tactile with friends, and I need human touch. Am I really going to be expected to stay 2 metres from my own boyfriend until there is a vaccine? And not see close friends who don't live locally because it's too far to travel without needing rhe toilet?

@RichardMarxisinnocent, me too. I actually can't stand it.

I won’t be told by the government not to hug my family members.

I will use my own discretion. I’ll probably still avoiding touching my elderly grandmother as she has a host of health conditions, but I’m not going to avoid physical contact at all costs with everyone

@manitobajane Those people are not your friends. Fuck them 👊

I haven't been nearer than 2m to my boyfriend of 3 years since just before lockdown

Why? Is one of you vulnerable?

@RichardMarxisinnocent

Why? Is one of you vulnerable

Honestly? Do you really not know?

Why? Is one of you vulnerable?

No. Because we don't live together, you must be aware of the rule not to see people who don't live in your household?

For 8 weeks we didn't see each other in person at all, then for the last 2 weekends we have met in a park for a walk /picnic at a 2 metre distance.

I'm wondering if people will deliberately not choose people to be in their bubble if they are forward facing key workers. I've had people mention it to me - or maybe they're just looking for an excuse not to have me in their bubble 🤔😂

And regardless of any rules, my boyfriend temporarily has 2 relatives living with him, one of whom works in a care home, and the other has diabetes. And all of them are from a BAME background. So mixing households might not be such a low risk as if we were two people living alone and pretty well isolated.

I've been waiting for the bubble thing to happen just to see all the AIBU posts that will pop up with people fighting with their DP about who's family get to be in the bubble...

@RichardMarxisinnocent honestly I think you are over interpreting the rules now?

The risk of infection is no different between you and him than between me and my husband who I live with - can't you make a safe decision that the two of you form a household now ? Risk is based on behaviour ie. travel/ interaction - if your behaviour is controlled in other ways you can now interact/ have physical contact.

I wouldn't go waiting for the government to give you permission - they are not competent or organised and genuinely have probably not thought about this.

@RichardMarxisinnocent sorry just saw your last post - I can see there is vulnerability.

the Bubble Authority?

@RichardMarxisinnocent honestly I think you are over interpreting the rules now

She isnt over interpreting

I do however completely agree with this they are not competent or organised and genuinely have probably not thought about this

@RichardMarxisinnocent Thank you for answering. In that case, your actions make perfect sense.

I do, of course, know the rules. However, I have not stuck to them because there is no reason in the case of my relationship with non-resident long-term DP. In fact, there is every reason not to.

Had either of us fallen into a 'risky' category, we would have acted differently.