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AIBU to prefer Fred Astaire & Ginger Rogers dancing to twerking, lol

81 replies

WeWantSweet · 25/05/2020 20:27

Different times and mores I know with both positive and negative aspects but BBC2 have been showing their old films and the elegance and floaty dress fabulousness is something to aspire to I think..

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BMW6 · 25/05/2020 20:30

YANBU. Twerking isn't skilfull (anyone with any large arse can do it).

Griefmonster · 25/05/2020 20:33

Very different styles of dance. And you can't be unaware that they are not really reflecting different times but different music, culture and purposes. I feel very uncomfortable with outrage at twerking. Smacks of cultural imperialism, elitism and quite frankly racism (structural if not personal). But I think you know that.

Griefmonster · 25/05/2020 20:34

Would like to see you try @BMW6BMW6 (i really wouldn't)

Kerravon34 · 25/05/2020 20:35

Me too. I’ve just watched those films xx

NeutrinoWrangler · 25/05/2020 20:40

YANBU.

NowSissyThatWalk · 25/05/2020 20:47

Very different styles of dance. And you can't be unaware that they are not really reflecting different times but different music, culture and purposes. I feel very uncomfortable with outrage at twerking. Smacks of cultural imperialism, elitism and quite frankly racism

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WeWantSweet · 25/05/2020 20:53

Er, I'm not outraged at twerking I just thought it seemed to represent the complete opposite of Fred & Ginger dancing. Elegance is colour blind surely?

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Griefmonster · 25/05/2020 21:19

Cultural perceptions or opinions on what defines "elegance" are very much not "colour-blind". @WeWantSweet you can prefer whatever dance style you want to obviously. But saying that one type of dance is more aspirational than another is a deeply loaded statement.

Griefmonster · 25/05/2020 21:21

(if you can't see that but would like to learn more as to why, then that's great. I'm happy to discuss. If you can't see it and don't want to see it then.....buh bye. I'll leave you to it)

KilljoysDutch · 25/05/2020 21:25

Omg you're so quirky and different lol.

Seriously though everything @Griefmonster said. It's strange how the comparison of how good something is tends to have BAME culture on the negative end.

DDemelza · 25/05/2020 21:25

I vastly prefer ballet to all other forms of dance. It's neither reasonable nor unreasonable. It's simply personal preference.

WelcomeToGreenvale · 25/05/2020 21:41

Fine if you mean just "twerking", but twerking isn't the entirety of modern dance. I like the old school dancing too but some of the things modern dancers are accomplishing is astonishing.

blacksax · 25/05/2020 21:53

Twerking looks like someone imitating having sex while standing up.

Hardly the result of years of professional dance training is it?

Macncheeseballs · 25/05/2020 21:56

Twerking is difficult

Griefmonster · 25/05/2020 22:04

@blacksax hardly....

lifestooshort123 · 25/05/2020 22:07

Ginger Rogers' dresses were amazing, so elegant.

MitziK · 25/05/2020 22:31

More of a Gene Kelly fan myself.

he was a right looker, too

LemonSqueezy0 · 25/05/2020 22:33

"Different times and mores I know"

Is the word mores a typo, OP? What word was it supposed to be?

Everyone can, and will have a preference, but I think you have a great opportunity here to broaden your horizons and soak up some knowledge on the cultural history and relevance of twerking. You being so dismissive of it demonstrates a real lack of understanding and intelligence around cultural dance and the stories within.

DDemelza · 25/05/2020 22:33

Mores means customs.

FOJN · 25/05/2020 22:41

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mores]]

I prefer ballroom latin, does that make me guilty of some kind of bigotry?

LemonSqueezy0 · 25/05/2020 22:54

If the title hadn't referenced the comparison to twerking, it would have been a chat about fred and ginger, and the lovely old costumes. The mention and then dismissive attitude towards twerking is unnecessary and serves no useful purpose in this discussion on Fred and Ginger. So I wonder why it was mentioned... Hmm

Griefmonster · 25/05/2020 23:11

@MitziK - I love Gene Kelly too! (And indeed love Fred and Ginger). All of these amazing dancers are/were influenced by others and experimented with different genres (Gene Kelly being a brilliant example of this).

I love dance in general and am in awe of the physical, creative, expressive, emotional discipline and skill all styles take. It's not about liking a type of dance making you a bigot @FOJN. Of course it's not.
@LemonSqueezy0 has nailed it.
OP - why not start a new thread about how wonderful Fred and Ginger are full stop?

SharonasCorona · 25/05/2020 23:17
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Troels · 25/05/2020 23:17

Fred and Ginger any day. Or Cyd Charisse, So elegant. I'd watch them anyday.

Ponoka7 · 25/05/2020 23:20

I've voted YABU, because of the usual 'white middle class culture is so aspirational', bullshit. Oddly enough I've tead this after watching the Coronation Street episode tackling racism.