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Journalists outside Cummings house hypocrisy

62 replies

whenthejoyreturns · 25/05/2020 09:42

Anyone just seen the footage BBC news? Getting on for 100 journalists outside Cummings house all squashed together, some half arse attempt at a face mask on a few ( only covering mouth not nose). Have I missed something? Is social distancing over? These are no doubt the same people reporting with exasperation on a lack of social distancing on transport and work places.
AIBU to think these people are hypocrites and need calling out?

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CertainGecko · 25/05/2020 12:24

I think they're screwed as a journalist of that type though. If they socially distance from the rest, they'll miss the scoop. They could all agree to distance but as soon as one breaks ranks and pushes to the front they all will, or lose out. I have no sympathy for their predicament though, as they are scum who do this to many undeserving people as well as cunts like Cummings.

whenthejoyreturns · 25/05/2020 12:38

Not discussing the rights or wrongs of Cummings, but a crowd of 100 journalists are not socially distancing - literally in each other’s faces on national tv whilst reporting on him not abiding by the rules. How can we take anything they write seriously because they obviously don’t care about the rules either.

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1984in2019 · 25/05/2020 13:32

This is pure whataboutery. Those journalists haven’t been instrumental in setting and communicating lockdown policy to the nation, they don’t sit in on Sage meetings, they don’t have the ear of the PM, etc etc.
There’s is no comparison and to try to forge one is deflection from the real issue here.

Miljea · 26/05/2020 10:24

1984, yep, in spades.

This whataboutery smacks of the same desperation BoJo must be feeling.

If anyone should have been squeaky clean on following the letter of the law regarding lockdown, it was DC. He needs long and loud calling out about it.

He manipulated the British people via the media with his Take Back Control, and Get Brexit Done.

Then he blatantly tramples all over his own Stay Home. Protect the NHS. Save Lives slogan - and we whine that the nasty media are challenging him, as we all wonder why we bothered to obey The Rules, if they don't matter.

AlternativePerspective · 26/05/2020 10:30

So because Cummings didn’t follow the rules that means nobody else has to?

What happened to to taking personal responsibility then? What exactly do you think there is to be achieved by not following the rules yourself just because someone else didn’t? Another 34000 deaths maybe?

Two wrongs don’t make a right, and people who genuinely believe that this doesn’t mean they should follow the rules should get a fucking grip.

Miljea · 26/05/2020 10:30

joyreturns I don't follow The Rules while I'm doing my job, either. I've even been seen on National TV blatantly breaking the rules.

People clap for me on a Thursday night, even 😂

You can't socially distance in all jobs. 'Breaking news' journalism is one of them, and journalists are currently holding D.C. to account because BJ won't.

Perhaps you, some others, and the OP's bias is because this bloke 'Got Brexit Done' and therefore should be above the law in all other matters?

AdalindMeisner · 26/05/2020 10:32

Hey, rules dont apply now - didnt you know? BlowJob and Cummings have made that very clear.🤷🏼‍♀️

vanillandhoney · 26/05/2020 10:33

They arent social distancing.

You can still work even if you can't social distance.

They are making life hell or anyone that lives there.

Are they? Why?

They shouldn't even know where he lives.

Meh, that's what happens when you're in the public eye. Don't want your personal life splashed across the tabloids? Don't take a post in government and the proceed break the laws you helped to write!

Miljea · 26/05/2020 10:35

Alternative you're somewhat disingenuously implying DC is just some random, who broke the rules.

The government has destroyed mountains of political capital in defending DC, the the anger of many of its own politicians.

The optics of this are awful, but I don't mean a pile of journalists getting their story. Those who 'care' about that somewhat obviously just want the public to leave Mr Brexit alone.

He's done the Tories immense damage and were all wondering what dirt DC has on BJ. So do those journalists, doing their job.

Bflatmajorsharp · 26/05/2020 10:37

Yes, you're right. The press should have little to no interest in the going-ons of a governmental advisor let alone where he lives.

Unfortunately, this psychopathic liar is effectively running the country. The PM has covered up for him and they've both made it clear that their primary interest is in securing their own positions not running the country during a time of crisis.

HTH.

Aretheystillasleepbob · 26/05/2020 10:40

They’re behaving with integrity and working to provide for their children, isn’t that all that matters now??

AlternativePerspective · 26/05/2020 10:41

No. The two issues are separate.

There is no question that DC should be held accountable for his actions, but truth is this isn’t going to happen at the moment and needs to be a long-term consideration e.g. when the inevitable enquiry happens after this.

But people need to think for themselves. If you don’t want to catch COVID, then you stay as aware as you were, you don’t go out, and if you must then you social distance. DC not having done all of that doesn’t mean that everyone else doesn’t have to. It means that some people will assume that they no longer have to, but those people are still responsible for themselves.

ScribblingMilly · 26/05/2020 10:43

What is the benefit to us? Why do we need a picture of DC outside his house? It's a subject that requires calm, careful investigation of the facts not an irresponsible snap and shout session. I've felt let down by the press throughout this crisis though tbh, this is just more of the same.

The80sweregreat · 26/05/2020 10:43

It should be dropped now and I was Mrs angry on the weekend and I'm not defending him at all. Enough now though.
He has a child to think about and all this does not add anything to anyone's cause.
It fact it makes it all worse.
Leave them alone.

Lucywilde · 26/05/2020 10:44

You know the journalists are following their instinct and probably trying to make money and do what is best for their family.

I’m not saying what’s happening is right but DC wrote the rules and broke them, Doris backed him up and now all credibility is lost. The public are tired of lockdown and now suddenly we see someone very high up doing exactly what they want, Joe Public is going to think they can do. Social distancing will disappear, shops are opening, we have the highest death toll in Europe. No track and trace and lack of PPE. What a huge fuck up!

GuyFawkesDay · 26/05/2020 10:45

I'm worried about this portrayal of the press as "duh liberal meejah" etc.

There's a distinctly far right, Trumpian flavour in this. Run by SM bots.

Who funnily enough were hugely influencial in Brexit and Trump's election. And run by spin doctors and advisors like DC here.

We have to keep in mind that a free media is one of the fundamental differences between democracy and dictatorship.

His actions have opened him up to that treatment. I'm not sure about press chasing etc as I think doorstep papping is wrong but the questioning and press coverage is entirely right.

Sindragosan · 26/05/2020 10:49

The press have access to the electoral roll (or something similar) so should you end up in a court case/tribunal etc, they can door step just about anyone. Its happened to families around here involved in controversial court cases, don't think because you're not in the public eye they can't do it to you.

middleager · 26/05/2020 10:54

He needs to resign. It won't stop the media circus, but he's the one making it worse with his lies and deception.

Studlee · 26/05/2020 11:02

44BoingBoingyBoing

Well if the rules don't apply to cummings and Boris why should anyone else bother?

Two wrongs don't make a right!!!

AdalindMeisner · 26/05/2020 11:12

@The80sweregreat No it doesn't want dropping because then we are basically saying it is ok for rule makers to also be rule breakers. Us minions have sacrificed so much to stop the nhs becoming overwhelmed, to flatten the curve and all that and cummings (the puppetmaster) and Johnson (the puppet) are showing contempt for frontlines and the general population (thousands who have had to say goodbye to dying relatives via a fucking ipad because they followed the rules cummings helped make). The minute it is let drop then we are saying it is ok.

AlternativePerspective · 26/05/2020 11:13

Well the press have behaved atrociously throughout this whole pandemic. As much as there needs to be a government enquiry, there also needs to bee a press enquiry.

And they didn’t do themselves any favours by making claims that Cummings went back there on a second occasion. Hearsay does not equal truth and they scored an own goal with that one. As Grant Chapps said, “not everything you read in the papers is true,”

While the press are frothing over Cummings plans are going ahead to re-open schools, to re-open non-essential shops, to re-open bars and Cafe’s, and there are still infection rates and death tolls to consider. All of which are being overlooked in the name of this story which can’t go anywhere any more.

The press need to take some accountability here.

Samcro · 26/05/2020 11:15

can't feel an inch of sympathy for DC. he is a hypocrite.
he had the cheek to tell reporters of for not SD.
this should not be "dropped" he should be sacked.
the press/media need to keep this in the public eye.

AlternativePerspective · 26/05/2020 11:16

@ @The80sweregreat** it needs to be a long game. There needs to be an enquiry, officially, not trial by media.

The press have had their say. Now they need to make time for the other important factors in this pandemic.

AdalindMeisner · 26/05/2020 11:18

@The80sweregreat

There are covid ICU drs ready to walk out - the people we actually need right now because of his disgusting lies and blatant disregard for the rules - rules there to help us as a nation.

I, like many other parents, have children with autism, I had symptoms, I chose to stay in my home and self isolate as that was the right thing to do. What he did was wrong - no amount of lies will change that. Amd the fact he continues to lie and not even hold his hands up and so yes, I did break the rules, I'm sorry.

So no I hope it isn't dropped.

AlternativePerspective · 26/05/2020 11:21

the press/media need to keep this in the public eye. And what should they overlook to do that? The re-opening of schools? The fact that Brexit talks are in crisis and we’re heading towards no deal? The fact that non essential shops are opening and people are being encouraged back to work? The fact that people are still becoming infected and still dying? The r number?

At this rate the government will remove briefings because they become highjacked by this one story and people won’t be informed about anything else to do with the COVID pandemic.

I agree, he should have resigned/been sacked and his excuses and his arrogance is astounding.

But that’s not going to happen, and in the meantime kids go back to school in five days time.

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