Did Boris Johnson just call us all bad parents?!

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Having watched that briefing I am incandescent with rage, less at what Cummings did - I understand people might have needed to make difficult choices and compromises during lockdown - but at the excusing of it. Why not admit it was an error of judgement and apologise?

I have three children. When my husband and I both became ill with what we believed to be Coronavirus in mid-March, we took turns to watch the children whilst the other slept. I lay on the sofa, feeling the illest I have ever felt, while CBeebies played on loop. We relied on neighbours we barely knew to drop off essentials. We would have loved to lean on family but we didn’t because we believed to do so would endanger them and the wider community.

A succession of ministers - and now the Primeminister himself - have suggested that Mr. Cummings behaved as any loving parent would. But many loving parents did not behave as he did. We struggled and made sacrifices in what we believed was the National interest. Are they now suggesting we just don’t love our kids as much as Mr. Cummings loves his?

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Still waiting for those facts, thanks"

Nobody has the facts, that's my point. All you can do is speculate on what the press tell you, and most of that will not be true.

He doesnt have to apologise as he has acted within the rules.

Nobody has the facts, that's my point. All you can do is speculate on what the press tell you, and most of that will not be true

Maybe use a reputable news source rather than gutter press.

Although it all fits the persona you create.

@TabbyMumz What about the facts as reported by his wife? That he was the one that was ill and the child helped nurse him before they "emerged into Lockdown London". Last time I checked London was not Durham, so if they hadn't done anything wrong why the omission?

He doesnt have to apologise as he has acted within the rules.

I don't think he has acted within the rules. Even if you are going to argue that he has, you'd have to show he had no alternative options for childcare to be provided if it was needed. If as you say we are all so short on facts, and I agree we could know more, then you can't know enough to make that assertion. If we don't know what he did or why, nor do you.

Re your earlier post I believe his uncle died after Cummimgs travelled North.

Yes and usually out of step with the public mood.

Clearly not, @ITonyah, given that even the Mail doesn't support Cummings and Johnson.

Not all of us give a shit and would much rather move on and get on with more important things

What more important things are you being prevented from getting on with, @ITonyah?

It's more than likely a made up story and the press will have paid someone to make that up. That's how the press works.

You're really scraping the barrel with "It's more than likely", @TabbyMumz. Can't you do better than that? I notice you don't seem to be willing to come back and defend your suggestion that he travelled to help his elderly parents.

Whk on earth writes down the number plate of a vehicle? For no good reason?

I imagine if I saw a prominent person blatantly breaking the rules he has been heavily instrumental in formulating, I might well gather evidence of that fact. Your suggestion that he didn't write it down falls down in the face of evidence that he then checked the number online.

Honestly, your increasingly desperate attempts to defend this are becoming risible. You just can't get the quality of Torybots these days.

So ok, he was in bluebell wood, on the beach, and in a castle....oh and dancing in a garden. All in a few days, whilst his wife is ill. Yeah, right.

Oh, stop it. Look at the dates. You just aren't trying now, @TabbyMumz.

The opinionated narcissistic dick has some important information on the big boozy posh boy.

You misunderstand. Johnson is the opinionated narcissistic dick. I don't rate Cummings as highly as that.

Re DC being Gove's man, Gove would stab BJ in the back to become PM. DC has seemingly got knowledge of where BJ has buried the bodies so BJ will no doubt want to fall over himself to make DC keep quiet.

Yes that's a good point and i agree OP

An investigating journalist, already on a story about DC travelling outside of the rules would make a note of number plates.

He doesnt have to apologise as he has acted within the rules.

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yeah right

I think technically he may have acted within the rules, but public perception is different which you cannot blame anyone for.

Fact......he told us to stay home and he left home.

This is a fact.

Yes but there is a caveat in the rules about being able to go to another property if it would be harmful to remain at home.

This morning I find I'm in agreement with The Guardian, The Daily Fail, The Times, Twitter, Piers Morgan, many of the SAGE committee, The Spectator, QC s galore, ...... and I'm not going to bore on ... you can add to that list .....but how often does that happen?

Obvs yournot on that list Tabby.

If DC did act within the rules (which I very much doubt), then the rest of us have been seriously misled about how the rules were to be interpreted.

Yes but there is a caveat in the rules about being able to go to another property if it would be harmful to remain at home.

Only for things like escaping domestic violence. Why on earth would it be more harmful for him to stay at home than to travel 270 miles with a child and an ill wife?

I'm not saying he was right to do it, but he wouldn't have spread cv doing what he did.

The second home owners coming here throughout lockdown and the people cramming together in small seaside towns are more of a risk tbh

The witness who saw someone who "looked like" DC is now saying he "thinks" it "looked like" DC.

@JudyCoolibar - are you a journalist, twising my words - my parents would insist on it, they wouldn't have it any other way - my son is an only child, no cousins on DH side and sees cousins my side every couple of years - why has everyone on MN suddenly become so bloody callous about their own children's welfare. Is it because you don't like Cummings. FFS.

I think this article firmly puts to bed all suggestions that Cummings acted within the guidance - insights.doughtystreet.co.uk/post/102g80l/did-dominic-cummings-act-responsibly-and-legally

No but if your really stupid or just want an excuse to be outraged you can pretend that he did if it suits you.

JudyCoolibar - are you a journalist, twising my words

Nope.

You are the ones who said your parents would look after your child if he became ill, and that anyone who would contemplate other alternatives for your child would be cruel.

If I had coronavirus and my elderly parents were insisting on looking after my child and telling me they "wouldn't have it any other way" I would still refuse. Because I couldn't live with the guilt if my parents then caught coronavirus from him and died horribly, all alone and gasping for breath, in a coronavirus intensive care ward.

No but if your really stupid or just want an excuse to be outraged you can pretend that he did if it suits you.

or you can pretend it's all cool. nothing to see here. if it suits you. 😂😂😂😂👋