To think that Dominic Cummings DID break the rules?

[LumaLou]

The day after reportedly developing coronavirus symptoms, Dominic Cummings and his family travelled 200 miles to self isolate.

While I can understand the desire to be near family, AIBU to think they should have isolated at home?

Many families in the UK have faced situations where sticking to the rules has at best inconvenient, at worst traumatic. They have managed to do so with less of a support network and less resources at their disposal than the Cummings family.

@cunningartificer I'm so glad you reminded us about the Sword of Truth

As someone once said, all political careers end in failure.

Au rev, DC.

I can understand both parents being sick and needing relatives to care for a child, but if they were so sick they couldn't look after their child, how the fuck were they safe to drive 200 odd miles?

Clearly one rule for him, one rule for another...as he's more important than the rest of us!

"I can understand both parents being sick and needing relatives to care for a child, but if they were so sick they couldn't look after their child, how the fuck were they safe to drive 200 odd miles?"

And regardless of that, it's clear that the rules permit someone to travel to them to help, not what Cummings did.

“Justice should not only be done but should manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be done”.
The quote is very old but still appropriate.
I have no family in England. Nor does DH.
But running north - in my case to Scotland - never crossed my mind.

2020, that quote has very much been going through my mind today.

Along with 'justice should be blind'.

Disgusting behaviour. He’s really sticking two fingers up to the British public. All those people who couldn’t attend family funerals during lockdown. And the cabinet falling over themselves to save his career. Pathetic.

@IpanemaGallina
Actually I find the behaviour of those defending him rather worse.

It’s unbelievable.

I had the virus about 6 weeks ago, and I’m a single parent of two DC with SN. It wasn’t easy, but I coped. I arranged for friends to drop food on the doorstep, ordered takeaways to be delivered when I was too ill to cook etc. It wasn’t great but I managed.

2 adults with just one child? Really? I think they could have coped.

They are the ones we are meant to listen to going forward in the daily briefing.
And more generally.
But now all credibility/trust - and respect - lost.

@MayDayHelp

Absofrickinglutely. You are a strong independent woman (as my daughters would say). You did what had to be done.

They should have done the same. But they either couldn't or wouldn't. Either way, that should preclude them from making the rules for the masses in the future.

@2020notQuiteAsPlanned completely agree. The actual attorney general defending him. I’m more shocked by this than what DC actually did.

@IpanemaGallina
Yes. Shocked at D.C.
But even more shocked by the others......

I’ve been mulling this all day. My main worry about the virus was us getting sick and not being able to care properly for the children. If that had happened, we’d have most likely needed help as we have a baby and a 3 year old. However, it wouldn’t have been the older one that would have been the problem, it would have been the baby. If it had just been the older one, we could have hunkered down with tv and probably been ok especially if both of us were sick at slightly different times. Therefore, I think on balance, he is stretching the exceptional circs because he only had one child and was well enough to drive hundreds of miles with symptoms. I thought it was interesting mat Hancock used the word ‘toddler’ earlier. Made him seem younger than he actually is.

The longer this charade of pretending he didn't blatantly flout the rules the more senior Tories get sucked into the mire and the more the dirt the press are weaponising to stick the knife in further.

So we've had the attorney general basically saying that the laws that were passed were not "exactly rules, more like guidelines that it is okay to ignore if you are being a good parent". We also have further accusations in the press that he both broke isolation to go on a nice trip to Barnard Castle and he came back up to Durham after recovering and returning to work in London.

I really hope that the press and the public don't let up on this. Although I have my doubts that this will actually result in anything, because I have zero faith in this country at the moment.

How delightful. After waiting 24 hours to let government ministers line up like the hypocrites they are to applaud his good sense and caring nature, the Guardian has just broken the news that during his Easter break up there he and his family were seen visiting Barnard Castle - not apparently ill at all - where he was spotted by someone who did an online check on his number plate, so surprised was he to see him there. He was also seen in Durham on a second trip after he'd supposedly recovered and gone back to work in London (and been photgraphed there).

Can't wait to watch the dominoes fall.

Ultimately this reflects on Boris.
If Dominic Cummings won't do the right thing then it's upto the PM.
And if he won't, then he how can he expect public trust or respect in a national - international - crisis.

Not unreasonable at all - he broke the rules, and imo, the way no 10 tried to cover it up and undermine their advice is both shameful and potentially deadly.

Ah, we crossed, @Hopoindown31.

Here's the story: www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/new-witnesses-cast-doubt-on-dominic-cummingss-lockdown-claims

If he was not breaking the rules the first time as the government are claiming, it seems he did at another point.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/23/new-witnesses-cast-doubt-on-dominic-cummingss-lockdown-claims

@TheModicum seems we read the same article.

Boris has lost the last tiny bit of credibility he was clinging onto by standing by Cummings .
Disgraceful, wish we had a general election coming up .

He definitely broke the rules. It annoyed me at the briefing when they said any caring parent would do the same. This is a parenting website and pretty much everyone is saying that they wouldn't have done what he did. At least the other high profile rule breakers had the decency to show remorse for their actions.

@mbosnz well I’d like to think I coped and followed the guidelines because I’m not a cunt who thinks it’s ok to go and spread a potentially deadly virus around, knowing that I had it.

If I could manage it on my own in rural somerset, I think they could have managed between them in London. If it meant plugging their kid into the iPad and ordering Uber eats 3 times a day, they could have easily done it.

The man is hideous. It was so blatantly set up today when he came out if his house literally laden with a kids bike and ball, hoping to play to the, “oh look, he’s just a dad and obviously really involved with his little boy, so who can blame him..,,” Bollocks! He thinks the public are stupid. Well he fooled some of the people some of the time (Brexit), but he can’t fool all of the people all of the time. His time is up!