To feel like parents aren't allowed to criticise teachers anymore?

[velaryon]

I have the utmost respect for the teaching profession, especially the hard work and dedication of many teachers despite a pandemic and nationwide lockdown.
But at the same time, I've seen a lot of parents genuinely concerned about the teaching & communication at their DC's school who were immediately accused of 'teacher bashing' and being too lazy to teach their own children.
AIBU to think this is absolutely ridiculous?
I don't see anything wrong with questioning the level of teaching a school is providing, provided it's done in a sensitive and understanding way. IMO it's ridiculous how quickly someone is accused of teacher bashing for asking a legitimate question.

OP

Whether you meant to or not, the tone of your posts has opened up ANOTHER so called teaching bashing thread.

Have you relayed your concerns to the school in question and what was their response? You should also be prepared that they can't give you what you want, as what we'd all like vs what is feasible doesn't match across the world right now.

In the scheme of a lifetime, 6 months sub-par learning is v unlikely to change someone's life trajectory. Think we all need a bit of perspective.

It’s always the same on here. Teachers are the holy grail and anyone who dares say anything at all is shit down in flames.

I can see why you still bear a grudge against your teachers. So funny.

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God this place is like a broken record.

Worked 8 hours at my laptop today.

But no, teachers aren't working hard at all 🙄

There are some fantastic teachers who are open to learning and some who are not and spend all their time trying to avoid children,parents and actually teaching.

Most of the threads though criticise teachers as a whole where the poster actually means 'their school' - generally not even individual teachers at the school much of the time.

And that's what MN teachers are getting fed up about - the more than daily negative generalisation. It's wearing, especially when actual real life teaching staff overall are working hard right now.

Yes, like in every profession there are some not so good teachers and like any other business there are some less than good schools.

But stop with the negative generalisation of teachers every daily on MN - it's just so much right now!

If I wanted to avoid teaching, teaching wouldn't seem like the best profession to go into would it?

What Ever.

@SquashedFlyBiscuits
However, teachers seem to be the only profession that are being complained about in thread after thread after thread...

Actually teachers have been the only profession that have refused to go back or engage in discussions. Other industries, including shop workers, doctors or nurses haven’t done this.

That's very true @CrocodileFrock, but in some situations it is the teacher who is underperforming.

Do you have actual examples of that? If a particular teacher is consistently failing to set work in line with the school's' policy, then get in touch with the school and point this out. If, however, it's the school that is failing to implement a decent distance learning policy, then criticising the actual teachers* is wrong, unfair and pointless.

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The comments about teachers are a lot more balanced and informed than the ones being made in a thread about the parole board just now.*^

How many negative threads have there been about the parole board recently?

I notice you also refer the 'parole board' rather than the actual group of people working on the parole board.

Threads complaining about teachers (most don't say schools, they say teachers as a group of people) are currently daily. I have read at least 4 or 5 this afternoon. My hidden threads list is full of them.

"Actually teachers have been the only profession that have refused to go back or engage in discussions. Other industries, including shop workers, doctors or nurses haven’t done this.' Teachers haven't stopped working, and they haven't at any point refused to engage in discussions. What the heck are you on about?

Actually teachers have been the only profession that have refused to go back or engage in discussions

But that's not actual true is it
The unions have expressed concerns. Some head teachers have expressed concerns.
Some teaching staff may well have expressed concerns.

However schools have been open throughout - staffed by teachers and TAs, and support staff too. They haven't refused to care for these KW and vulnerable children.

I don't know any real life teacher or TA who has refused to return to school. Not one. I do know some who are concerned and want clearer guidance to ensure safely is maintained, but everyone of them will return when asked to do so.

I forgot to highlight the quote.
For clarity - the first paragraph is a quote from a PP.

This isn't a discussion forum any more. It's just a constant stream of abuse. I don't even teach any more and I'm finding it exhausting and demoralising. God knows how teachers are coping with this shit.

Threads like this make me wonder why I’m bothering to still be on my laptop emailing feedback to my lovely students and my tutor group . I’m doing an amazing job whilst also looking after 4 dcs on my own so have some

What other profession are there bloody loads of threads bashing, if that doesn't clue you in nothing will.
Where are the "why can't we have threads complaining about doctors?nurses?chefs?" Oh yeah because teacher bashing is a national sport

Actually teachers have been the only profession that have refused to go back or engage in discussions. Other industries, including shop workers, doctors or nurses haven’t done this

Well this is just nonsense. Are you deliberately lying or just ignorant?

I don't even teach any more and I'm finding it exhausting and demoralising. God knows how teachers are coping with this shit.

Well, why do teachers read threads by parents then? It’s usually obvious from the title, the direction a thread might head - so if Mumsnetters don’t like a particular subject (like about teachers in this case), just skip over it?

Nobody is forced afaik to read a parents’ forum, where it’s obvious, education will be a big subject?

I don't think it's the teachers, it's the heads who have unrealistic ideas of how much work to expect of both teaching staff, parents & pupils. Expecting teaching staff to run lessons, supervise kids who had to be in school, probably look after their own kids & teach a full curriculum. Expecting parents who are working from home or are worried sick they might not have a job & how will they pay the bills become surrogate teachers often for multiple children. Expecting kids who have worries of their own to perform as well at home as they do at school. I've spoken to friends who have younger children than my ds & the amount of work that is expected is unreal, 7 solid hours of lessons & then 2-3 hours of homework every night, that is more than they do at school & without resources like textbooks. It is too much, please give the kids, parents & teaching staff a break, it's like the heads are trying to show off their school is the hardest working without considering we are in the middle of something most of us have never experienced before, it's hard enough trying to live day to day without you causing even more stress.

PinkiOcelot
It’s always the same on here. Teachers are the holy grail and anyone who dares say anything at all is shit down in flames

That is a stupid thing to post.

Actually teachers have been the only profession that have refused to go back or engage in discussions. Other industries, including shop workers, doctors or nurses haven’t done this

Come on. You know this isn’t true. Unless you think key workers & vulnerable children have been sent to empty schools? I don’t believe someone can be that ignorant, so I’m assuming it’s goady fuckery. If you want people to respect your opinion, try not to lie so obviously.

Interestingly, I remember back in March possibly, an hcp posted saying she wanted to quit her job as she didn’t think it was safe. No one called her lazy or selfish.

And on other forums, plenty of post office staff, supermarket staff, delivery drivers etc have posted saying they don’t feel safe at work. They’re not given PPE, they’re crammed together in sorting offices, in close contact with customers who don’t get social distancing. Some are angry, some want to quit, they just don’t post about it on Mumsnet as they tend to be blokes. They’re not teaching your kids so not need to be angry at them, right?

My children are in no way being taught. We get photocopied worksheets once a month. I'm not allowed to say I don't think that's acceptable on her though. YANBU. I know some incredibly hard working teachers. But photocopied worksheets that have been downloaded and printed out is in no way teaching.

Greyscreendream

Actually teachers have been the only profession that have refused to go back or engage in discussions.

Absolute bullshit.