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Should Sarah Smith be taken off air

245 replies

Opendraw · 19/05/2020 10:59

Aibu to think this kind of biased opinion has no place on the BBC

“It has been obvious that Nicola Sturgeon has enjoyed the opportunity to set her own lockdown rules and not have to follow what's happening in England and other parts of the UK”.

Sarah Smith, BBC News at 10 (18/5/20)

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Piglet89 · 20/05/2020 03:59

@FannyFernackerpan

I can hardly believe you brought Ireland and India into a thread about 2020 Britain.

Re Ireland - yeah, suspect many Brexiteers were thinking the same pre-Brexit - until they belatedly realised that sharing a border with Ireland was gonna cause them a shedload of hassle in leaving. Of course, it then immediately became the “Irish Border issue”. It’s never England’s problem. Then you’ve got journalists like John Humphreys on R4’s flagship breakfast programme asking senior Irish politicians why Ireland doesn’t also leave the EU.

Not to mention @mnhq not coming down hard enough on anti-Irish posts on this very site. even when they’re reported. Here, in 2020.

But, ok, sure - we’ll all just not bring Ireland up.

EdwinaMay · 20/05/2020 06:12

I would think this should be of no interest to NS, she should be working out how to sort out Scotland after CV, with the oil industry stuffed and little or no tourism we are rapidly heading for major disaster.

Chocolatedeficitdisorder · 20/05/2020 06:21

I wonder why so many non-Scots choose to reply on threads about Scottish politics and why Scots choose general threads to discuss specifically Scottish issues. There is a Scotsnet section for just that purpose.

Calyx72 · 20/05/2020 07:48

"I wonder why so many non-Scots choose to reply on threads about Scottish politics and why Scots choose general threads to discuss specifically Scottish issues. There is a Scotsnet section for just that purpose."

Get back in your box Scots?
Probably for traffic and/or different viewpoints.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 20/05/2020 08:10

I wonder why so many non-Scots choose to reply on threads about Scottish politics Well, I am naive enough to think we all live on the same relatively small islan, have all sorts of familial connections and are pretty much living in others back pockets. And It's a forum for discussion....

and why Scots choose general threads to discuss specifically Scottish issues. Because they have a devolved government, have unique issues to discuss

There is a Scotsnet section for just that purpose. And many users don't go there, this place is divisive enough without having an actual e -Gulag for pesky troublemakers!

I have to admit, this isn't quite how I though the thread would go overnight!

ilovemydogandMrObama · 20/05/2020 08:13

I wonder why so many non-Scots choose to reply on threads about Scottish politics and why Scots choose general threads to discuss specifically Scottish issues. There is a Scotsnet section for just that purpose.

Uh, this thread is in AIBU.

But yeah, good idea as long as it applies across all of Mumsnet.

For instance, all the Trump threads should only be limited to us Americans.

Opendraw · 20/05/2020 08:15

Offt this went off piste !

I post here as Scotsnet is not looked at very often and I don’t mind having different view points from around the UK and any other country who happens to be on. Generally it was more about the biased reporting than Scottish Politics....

I have posted about other things as any persons view regardless of where they live is useful...

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Opendraw · 20/05/2020 08:24

And as above it’s AIBU !

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Aesopfable · 20/05/2020 08:43

SNP being blamed for not tackling Scotland's drug death problem, when narcotics laws are still a reserved matter and Westminster has continually ignored all proposals to change them within Scotland.

Blaming UK narcotics laws for Scottish drug deaths is a bit like blaming the NHS for people’s Health - it is the very last step of a whole chain of events that the Scottish Government does have control over. Everything from policing, to housing, to job generation, to education, to city planning, the nhs, transport, social services, prison system... Difference in which all contribute to much lower drug deaths in England despite the same narcotics laws.

Opendraw · 20/05/2020 09:06

I think you will find a lack of funding at the heart of a lot of the issues, also Scotland is very different than a lot of areas in England. There has long been a culture here of alcohol, drugs etc that I think is changing with the younger generation generally across the whole of he UK. I am not sure why Scotland in particular has a huge drugs problem but I expect it’s demographics and poverty, lack of industry etc you are not comparing like with like

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StoneofDestiny · 20/05/2020 09:57

I wonder why so many non-Scots choose to reply on threads about Scottish politics and why Scots choose general threads to discuss specifically Scottish issues. There is a Scotsnet section for just that purpose

Wow - I’m a regular and long term poster and a Scot. I comments on lots of AIBU posts that attract my interest. Maybe you just want a clear field to have a Daily Fail rant and have no alternative perspectives to counter your views.
There is another ‘forum’ for that - it’s called a diary!

StoneofDestiny · 20/05/2020 10:05

Oh, and I'm disgusted that both my boys reported feeling hostility because of their English accents in Glasgow. I sent ds2 up to Glasgow to spend time with my df last year after GCSES. As I drove him home after picking him up at Heathrow, he said a lot of people were 'absolute twats' to him because of his accent. Nice

Interesting - Glaswegian here. My sons spend time every year in Glasgow (with their English accents) as does my English husband. They’ve never been made to feel uncomfortable about their accents in Scotland any more than I have in England. Yes, jokes about pronunciation are made both sides of the border and across county lines in England - but that’s it. Jokes - not racist attacks! Get a grip

MissEliza · 20/05/2020 10:18

Do not tell my dcs to get a grip. That's their real experience. The amount of anti-English sentiment in Scotland is pathetic.

StoneofDestiny · 20/05/2020 10:18

pickupthepieces

Never once said SNP is perfect 🙄. I am however pointing out the reality is that the UK govt. is not perfect either. Drug deaths at any level is sad - and Scotland has a significant drug death issue - but other cities across the UK have significant figures too.

Laughable that one poster on here say they came up from London and were shocked to see drug users in Glasgow. Wow - I travel to London every week and believe me, it’s impossible to ignore the homeless and drug users on the streets! I wonder wether that poster wears blinkers when crossing the border.

StoneofDestiny · 20/05/2020 10:20

Do not tell my dcs to get a grip. That's their real experience. The amount of anti-English sentiment in Scotland is pathetic

I’m telling you to get a grip!

Jazzled · 20/05/2020 10:40

The amount of anti-English sentiment in Scotland is pathetic.

I'm sorry your children experienced this. As a Scottish person I'm disappointed they felt that way because I've never witnessed it and have lived here all my life and have a lot of English friends who love Scotland and have said they find Scottish people very accepting and friendly.

I notice more anti-English sentiment when abroad. Almost every holiday I've ever been on I've asked if I'm English (with a look) at least once. When I respond Scottish there is an obvious change on demeanor and followed by an oh we love Scottish people type comments. I expect that's more football hooliganism related though.

My point is, I think what they have experienced here is not the norm and I hope they don't let it put them off coming back.

Jazzled · 20/05/2020 10:40

I've been asked*

Jazzled · 20/05/2020 10:41

Sorry - typos. The sun has made its annual appearance and I cant see 😂

PickUpThePieces · 20/05/2020 11:05

Kevin Bridges stand up comedy has a go at posh Scottish accents or the English.
Very Funny ( in part because there’s an element of self deprecation)

Middle aged Scots having a ‘ laugh’, ‘ banter’ at English teenagers about their accents.
Not Funny
Kind of in the same way Jim Davidson isn’t funny.

We don’t go home and cry ourselves to sleep about it but it makes those particular Scots look very narrow minded and perhaps more importantly for a nation that’s supposed to be known for its sense of humour and warmth, it’s actually totally rubbish patter.

Fortunately, most Scots are not like that but denying that there are a few, mystifies me.

In the same way that this thread was started about the use of 1 word by Sarah Smith.
Ironic that those of us are told to ‘get a grip’ when our kids have experienced a degree of anti English sentiment and yet the SNP seem terribly touchy, themselves.

Sun shining. Off out.

MissEliza · 20/05/2020 14:06

@Jazzled I have a couple of friends whose dcs are at uni in Scotland and have had very positive experiences. However one is at St Andrews and the other Edinburgh. I think they have high level of English and international students so perhaps that accounts for their different experiences. Of course my dcs will come up and visit. They like Glasgow and the people's sense of humour. They just don't understand the attitudes of people. For the record, their df is from the Middle East and have had no problems visiting his home country, despite being fair and blue eyed and speaking broken Arabic. They're not sensitive little flowers. They've been brought up to be open minded and tolerant and just don't get why some Scottish people are so anti-English.

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