To think the government should pay private schools?

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My children have barely had any formal education since schools closed. A few Twinkl sheets, links to maths etc. I've tried my best, also wfh and different age children, I'm not the best teacher.

I understand state schools dont want to provide zoom/Google classroom lessons. Private school teachers seem to be doing this with success, I know it will never be good as a real classroom but all the parents I know would like it for their children.

My Y6 child has done Zoom Spanish coaching with a teacher, it has been great.

Aibu to think that the government should look to pay private schools to teach state children? I know there are far fewer private schools, so the lessons may need not to be interactive/more like lectures? It might be a far fetched idea, I find it very sad that my Y6 has been told no school after half term (school not following government guidelines). I can't afford private school, I had always hoped from an ideological perspective that state schools could provide the same great education, but now I can see how impressive private schools are, sorry for my kids I can't afford it.

My friend has taken her sin abroad as their private school did exactly what you say ... twinkle worksheets.
State schools near me doing a variety of things including weekly phone calls, online videos and postal workforce those who need it. Sounds like your school arent doing a great job rather than the thousands of state schools.

The Government need to hold state schools to account.

State schools need to get their arses in gear either to reopen or to start teaching remotely properly. Anything less should be seen as breach of contract and have implications for their funding/salaries going forward. Or cut their holidays.... this country is going to enter a massive decades long recession at this rate because no one has the balls to hold teachers and their unions to account.

I got an email this morning from a Y10: "Hi Miss, here's my work, sorry that it's hand written and photographed- we only have my mum's iPhone to see the work on and we haven't got a computer". Many kids don't have computers, or if they do there's one per family and not enough for each child. We are setting work and we are marking, but it's not necessarily the best policy to set mountains of work to overwhelm children who are already uncertain and anxious about things, and don't have the confidence of kids who know they'll do well, as more affluent children often have. Meaningful work and feedback can be provided without Zoom. It's not going to be the same as in a classroom, not by a long shot, but nor would Zoom, not for a class of 35 kids.

this country is going to enter a massive decades long recession at this rate because no one has the balls to hold teachers and their unions to account.
You seriously believe that a pandemic and months of terrible planning by the government has nothing to do with impending recession?

Of course, blame the teachers.

Private schools and their teachers have an incentive to get it right or the future of the school and their jobs are at risk. State school teachers know they won’t lose their jobs even if they offer a mediocre/ non existant service and are actually encouraged to put up countless blockers by militant unions.

The thing is, we're not paying for lectures, we're paying for an education, and that means interactive teaching and learning. The teacher needs to be live so that they can clarify and check understanding, and to differentiate for those that pick it up quickly and support those that don't pick it up at all.
The staff are working flat out- I'm not sure when you think they'd have time to prepare all these extra lessons.
Additionally, Spring term in Y6 in a prep school, when all exams are over is a very different atmosphere to Spring term in a state school with KS2 looming. The curriculum and content can differ hugely between independent and state schools at the same age and stage.

DD's school have been providing self-directed lessons, with ongoing marking, feedback and support. There have been some live sessions in MFL, for example, They're essentially doing a full timetable. That's a state school.

The teaching role change though when the schools were closed. No mention about them teaching.

There are many many many reasons why things differ.
Different budgets across state schools for starters. Then add in things like Fundraisers and if they are lucky some help from local businesses.

Many are still currently on the 12-week isolation. There's still about a month left. And of course, staff could still be off with the virus.

At some point during all of this, they have also been phoning parents or trying. Who knows if the teacher is still alive, at home, seriously ill in hospital. Sending out work, still dealing with all those SW's, Educational psychologists etc.

At some point, there would have been some training. There's always training. Oh, and of course the paperwork.

Oh Easter holidays, still opened to certain children. Oh and of course making PPE.

Think it's the half term now? They have two weeks to go until the doors are open. The earliest the guidance they will need to follow will be available to them could be another week at least.

They have been told to open June 1st. And have been left to get on with it.

Nope, I'm not a teacher. I just see what is happening around me. All this info and a whole lot more is widely available online.

Do you even know how they will maintain cleaning when they re-open? Toilets etc?

And then what more complaints because they are trying to keep a bunch of 5-year-olds away from each other. Young children who have been mainly at home, so social distancing will be fun.

Maybe parents could give a hand there and help your children with social distancing. With 2 weeks to go as a parent, that's where my focus would be. Helping them to get there because the school will not be the same for a very long time. Maybe listen to what teachers, tas etc are saying, if you don't believe them, go and search it.

It's also our role as parents to also educate our children. A local school was hammered because well and couldn't provide suitable work, didn't help that the government kind of forgot all about certain secondary years.

Mine should be entering the mad world in of GCSE's in September. Never had the chance to do the course choices. Never mind knowing when they will go back. But meh, I understand it's going to take time. It's not going to be June 1, schools back as normal.

And I know this is a very rare childhood illness but have you heard about Kawasaki? There is a potential risk linked to Clovid-19.

As of earlier today research is still ongoing.

My DS’ private school has provided a couple of Twinkl sheets. No online lessons whatsoever.

The Government need to hold state schools to account.

State schools need to get their arses in gear either to reopen or to start teaching remotely properly

Then the government needs to provide technology for all state teachers and pupils to enable remote learning. And they need to compel all parents to make them log in at the correct times. We have a well-established learning platform that only 1/3 of my primary pupils log on to. A combination of not having access to technology, either because they don't have the devices or parents/siblings are working on the devices or parents don't want the children in the devices (one parent today told me she doesn't let her child use her laptop in case she breaks it) and not bothering to get their DC to log on.

@canigooutyet

Do we close entire schools/ districts for weeks on end because a couple of children get chicken pox? COVID is less virulent and lethal for children so it makes no sense to keep schools closed.

Valiant attempts to argue from some posters but I’m afraid you are all wasting your time. You can’t argue logically with this kind of lunacy and narrow mindedness.
As if the average household has enough laptops and a strong enough internet connection to support several children on zoom lessons simultaneously! Not to mention parents working remotely. Are you really that blinkered and unaware of the world around you? Most of my students are accessing work via their phones, having a go on paper and then emailing me pictures. It’s the best they can do in the circumstances and they enjoy being in touch with me at least to get some words of encouragement.

@Bartlet
I don't have the job of deciding if schools should be open or not. June 1st I believe is when this will happen. And in the meantime basically please wait for further instruction from the government.

What is your take on this situation? Is yours one of those first back in?

And chickenpox? Other than something to do with how they are both packaged, which is the same as flu iirc. That's where the similarities end. Haven't been back recently to see if there have been any new discoveries. It's not something I have to really focus on, those years have long gone.

Yes I know, sounds odd, considering mine are no longer the age for kawasaki. Just have an interest in rare health things. Fascinating don't you think?

But considering our own bodies are constantly mutating, this might become the 'norm' and Flexi hours being easily available. Same with WFH. Although it's also shown the areas where the infrastructure, resources etc are severely lacking. But sorry, I digress. Nothing to do with the school opening in a couple of weeks.