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To think people shouldn't take people's choices personally

48 replies

Daisyxxchain · 18/05/2020 15:45

It's always the same. People judge the parents that do the opposite to them. Why??? I literally understand some people work. Some don't. I don't judge either party. You do what's best for your family.

Theres a full time working mum on my Facebook. One son aged 6. She was told she couldn't have children due to polycystic ovaries. But she fell naturally. She went back to work full time when he was 9 months. I remember at the time she wrote a big headed status about how she was teaching her son you work for what you want. She may aswel had said....sahm are lazy and not setting an example.

Anyway I wrote a status asking parents what they were doing about the sending kids back June 1st. I had 8-9 people say don't do it. Or I'm not not sending mine. Others said there's no point as the curriculum isn't being met. I chatted backwards and forwards with my concerns about the huge changes at my child's school. I felt it would be confusing. Many agreed or voiced back their worries.

Then this working mum wrote how I needed to just not worry my kid and send her. She said her son was having loads of one on one time and he was doing amazing. She works at an insurance company so her jobs not keyworker like that.

I took her point on and I appreciate the kids in school won't be miserable. Ofcourse they are having fun etc.

My newsfeed has been full all week of parents saying they won't send theirs back at this stage. Many are concerned in ore schools and reception about the new social distancing rules.

This afternoon working mum has wrote a ranty status about mass hysteria about sending children back. Said how her amazing son is the only child in his year at school and he's playing with other years and having fun. She continued to say it has not affected his Mental health and she's offended that others are suggesting that it could cause issues.

But why is she offended that others don't want to send their kids? It's our choice. It's good to discuss your reasons.

The thing is her situation is much better than ours. In half term her son's at different households everyday being looked after. Some of us sahm don't have tons of childcare options for free.

One thing I hate is sahm being called lazy etc.

We are living in a pandemic and there is no rush to send our kids back until we know it's safe. It makes sense for workers to use the service. But half of my daughter's class has said no. Infact 8 have said no and that's all I've asked. So it's a common answer where I am.

I respect the parents who have no choice. But I expect them to respect ours!

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SmileyClare · 18/05/2020 18:36

I think if you're asking for general opinion on Facebook then you need to consider other people's view points when they reply. And respect those views.
I think Working mum makes some valid points, and so do you.

However you're both hell bent on taking things personally. You don't like her, just admit it Grin and you need to stop having public "debates" with her over social media. It doesn't sound pleasant to start arguing with her when you're backed up by the majority of the FB group all hiding behind screens. It's all a bit like playground antics.

I honestly don't think you can make an informed choice about returning to school based on Facebook. She's right, it can be a bit hysterical and misinformed.

lucieinthesky · 18/05/2020 18:54

Being a SAHM isn't an option for lots of people. You're very lucky that your circumstances allow for it if that's what you want to do.

I'm sure there are plenty of parents who feel anxious about sending their child to school for x, y or z reason - for example because they're a key worker like Working Mum - and you starting a thread on Facebook about how awful it must be for children going back wasn't very thoughtful or kind in itself. To then be shocked when the woman that seems like the desire target of the wind up rises to the bait is just ridiculous.

You sound very judgement and a little bit jealous to be honest.

Daisyxxchain · 18/05/2020 19:01

I started this thread because she's very up her own about her decisions as a parent. She's the one making statements all the time. She's scrolling through her phone and getting annoyed that some of us choose to not send our kids back. She's purely looking at it from her own situation. We are not hysterical. School is reopening but will not be the same place our four year olds were in march. Therefore it's down to parents to decide what's best for them

I'm not jelous. I'd like to go part time. But not full time. Also we don't have everything but we are ok and manage fine. Said mum has a car. Her partner has another car. They choose to spend more on those sorts of things. That's fine! It makes her happy.

I can't afford the nursery prices to send my kiss. Don't have free help. So financially me taking a few years out is what's best. I'm not living the life of Riley.

You missed my point. But this is Mumsnet. You have to disagree and form a gang. I don't expect all to agree. She's the one ranting about other people's choices. I'll stick to ringing the bestie in future. She would understand me thankfully. Cheers all!

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SmileyClare · 18/05/2020 19:04

Lucie makes a good point. It's worth remembering that being a sahm is a privilege and choosing to keep your child at home is only an option for those that are in the privileged position to do so.

Not everybody has those choices and may feel unfairly criticised or judged. It is natural I think to feel defensive if the insinuation is that you are a lesser parent.

Reading between the lines, the fact that you state that Working woman thought she couldn't have children then went back to work when the baby was 9 months means you have judged her negatively for that, whether you realise or not.
We all judge each other, it's human nature. Just be aware of your own prejudices too.

iamapixie · 18/05/2020 19:07

We shouldn't but we do. Sounds as if you do too as that's a long post for someone who doesn't care. Where big issues like this are concerned I think we should make our decisions without endlessly going over them on social media to try to find majority acceptance.
If someone doesn't want to send their kids back, that's fine, but it would be nice to have the choice.

SmileyClare · 18/05/2020 19:09

Well I don't know, maybe the woman is a bit unbearable and tactless. Try not to take it personally.

I'm sure you're a lovely person Op so don't take it personally if people on MN disagree with you either Smile It can be helpful to hear other viewpoints that your bestie wouldn't necessarily voice!

Daisyxxchain · 18/05/2020 19:10

I don't have parents that want my kids for sleep overs. They don't have them for tea. My partner's parents never take my kids out either. We never go out due to not having any childcare. I am raising my child for a few years after doing palliative care and pharmacy work for ten years. I will be going back to work when I can work around my kids. I am.lucky. but so are working mums who can leave the toddler with the devoted grandma and no they can be someone other than mum.

I'm sorry but there's pros and cons to each. Sahm have a hard job for free. It's not all picnics! It's ignorant to say oh you are lucky to have the privilege. In many other ways I have nothing away from being a mum.

Does that mean my cousin who takes her kids to her mum's every other weekend and gets pissed is bad? No it doesn't mean that. It's just her mum wants to have her grandkids.

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B0bbin · 18/05/2020 19:10

YANBU

EmeraldShamrock · 18/05/2020 19:15

She sounds like a pain. I'd block her from the chat. Grin

DamnYankee · 18/05/2020 19:37

People judge the parents that do the opposite to them. Why???

...Because parenting is the one thing you really don't want to screw up. So anybody who is doing it differently can make even the most confident parent wonder if they are doing it right.

Sounds like you need a break from this group.

SmileyClare · 18/05/2020 19:40

I agree it is difficult if you don't have any help from your family. I've been a sahm, I understand it's not all a bed of roses.

Most parents are muddling along doing what they think is best. It doesn't help to be resentful of other people's situations that's all. You don't want to get a chip on your shoulder about it. Wink Other people's lives are rarely what they seem, often people present what they want you to see if that makes sense.

Don't dwell on it is my advice.

TurquoiseDress · 18/05/2020 19:42

Sorry got a bit lost at the PCOS thing.

What's that got to do with anything?

Just be confident in YOUR choices for YOUR child.

If you're so secure in your choices, why should you give any headspace to what other parents are doing?

PicsInRed · 18/05/2020 20:07

I bet she's been ripped to shreds on FB for that one post kindly reassuring you, saying "dont worry it'll be fine".

Leave her alone. She probably wishes she kept her mouth shut when you asked. Hmm

icansmellburningleaves · 18/05/2020 20:11

Sounds like you’re taking her choices personally!

mrsbyers · 18/05/2020 20:17

If her child is in school then she’s either a key worker or he/she has educational needs that were provided for

Peggysgettingcrazy · 18/05/2020 20:21

Jesus wept. Lots of working parents don't have free child care. Why do you keep going on about that?

You have taken this personally. Her status may have been about something that's happened, thats got nothing to do with you.

Some people are acting hysterical over covid in general. You may not have been who she was speaking about.

And yes, being a sahp, is a privilege position. You seem to think you saying you couldn't possibly work, adds to your point.

Peggysgettingcrazy · 18/05/2020 20:23

And yes, you are judging her. You decided she wasn't a key worker and shouldn't be sending her kids to school

Monkeynuts18 · 18/05/2020 20:28

If you're so secure in your choices, why should you give any headspace to what other parents are doing?

This is what it comes down to - with this and all similar disagreements. BF vs FF is a good example.

You only feel shamed when you are ashamed. Own whatever choice you’ve made, be proud of it, and you’ll never feel shamed or judged.

TurquoiseDress · 18/05/2020 20:59

You only feel shamed when you are ashamed. Own whatever choice you’ve made, be proud of it, and you’ll never feel shamed or judged

Yep, this with knobs on

TrainspottingWelsh · 18/05/2020 21:17

I agree with @Peggysgettingcrazy. If you post in the same manner on Facebook I'm not surprised she's defensive. I'm also not seeing the relevance of pcos. You sound both jealous and judgemental.

Cam2020 · 20/05/2020 09:14

You only feel shamed when you are ashamed. Own whatever choice you’ve made, be proud of it, and you’ll never feel shamed or judged

Absolutely!

hfrdgftcsdg · 20/05/2020 09:35

Haha you’re all as bad as each other. If you posted it on Facebook then you wanted validation that you were right just like her. You’re all sad.

Limpetlike · 20/05/2020 09:56

It's always the same. People judge the parents that do the opposite to them. Why??? I literally understand some people work. Some don't. I don't judge either party. You do what's best for your family

And yet, amusingly, the rest of your posts suggest you are violently and insecurely judgemental. I'm personally fine with being judgemental, but then I don't go on social media and expect anyone else to validate my life choices. I personally am utterly baffled by anyone thinking that being a SAHM is a 'privilege' to me it's a short-sighted or economically-enforced taking of yourself out of the workforce, making yourself economically dependent on someone else and permanently damaging your career and earning prospects but I don't go around telling people that.

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