Pyramid schemes are too offs ?

[gillys]

DH has been invited to join the Forever Living products scheme.
He is very sceptical about it.
I'm sure I've read bad comments about the company on here.
Anyone got experience of it or words of warning ?I
Thanks

Dont do it

It's a huge big scam and the only way to make money is to guilt trip more vulnerable people into parting with theirs.

Its basically direct selling. The more people you sell to, the more money you make. If there's a market in the area for the products then I'd say its a good earner. However, you often have to pay money in to start selling. Look up DSA.

Search for any MLM thread on here and you will understand why you should block whoever is trying to "recruit" (scam) him

Like all such schemes, the products are overpriced so it's hard to sell them and they will harass you into buying more and more expensive samples, on the pretext that you need these in order to get the customers. You'll end up buying more yourself that you actually sell, you'll lose friends if you keep pressuring them to buy, the company will pressures you to recruit people and to pretend you are making a fortune and living the highlife on social media. Don't do it.

You'll need to bully all your friends, social media contacts, basically anyone who will give you the time of day, into purchasing.

Then when they are all sick of it, you'll have a ton of products you do not want and can't sell, pressure to buy more from your up line, and no friends.

The only people who make money off these things are those with a social circle of loaded folk who buy stupid shit for fun, who you can recruite as your down-line and coerce into buying products through you to sell on to their friends.

Only join this pyramid scheme if you want to lose lots of money, and lose all your friends at the same time as your upline will get you to pester anyone you know to death.
Run for the hills, and block whoever is scamming you to join.

Forever Living must have been around for years, I went to one of their parties over 25 years ago, they sell oils and bath stuff right?

AVOID

he’ll lose money
And all your friends as they block and ignore you

Forget the product - the product is never important. They have to have a product so they aren’t technically a pyramid scheme and operate within the law.

Avoid like the plague.

JUST SAY NO

God I see so many young girls on Instagram get drawn into these schemes and then the ones at the top of the pyramid showing off what an amazing lifestyle it’s bought them and how it absolutely isn’t a pyramid scheme at all and all the other positive thinking bullshit they all spout it’s amazing they’re legal at all

Do not touch with a barge pole. All MLMs to be avoided- Forever Living, Tropic, Juice Plus, Arbonne etc

Just take a look at the dwindling cheques year on year at the success rally. Look at the bots who claim to be well off but have taken on massive directors loans from their limited companies to fund their lifestyles. Look at the bot who is insolvent but still presenting as a "top earner". The ex FL bot who today, after being outed on FB, admitted she went bankrupt whilst considered a leader within Forever Living. She has been recruiting new members for Modere for > 6 months without disclosing that little nugget of info.

The number of them currently fundraising for the NHS to up their status is astounding. The same money would buy 10x as much in brands you'd find in the supermarket so there is nothing philanthropic about their fundraising.

Oh, and the products are overpriced shit.

I worked in a small company (25 people) the boss got hooked on Forever Living and made us listen to presentations on our tea break.

We all refused to buy products from her, it was expensive and not something we needed especially the pressure she used to force us into a purchase.

Do not get involved it will alienate your friends and family.

Avoid Forever Fibbing like the plague. In fact, avoid all multilevel marketing schemes (MLMs). Seen one, seen ‘em all.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/p076n2hg/secrets-of-the-multilevel-millionaires-ellie-undercover

NO NO NO

Only if you are on top of the pyramid.

Don’t do it. Here’s an article about the lies and half truths of FLP. www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/the-lies-and-dark-secrets-top-forever-living-managers-are-hiding/

If he or you want to understand more about MLMs in general (they’re all as bad as each other), have a look at mlmtruth.org or follow the antimlm and antimlmmovement hashtags on Twitter. Those in the industry have a lot to gain by signing you up so will go to great lengths to tell you it’s a great opportunity, those who dislike MLM have facts about the industry and nothing to gain from telling it how it is. This is an industry in which >99% lose money and as you can see in the article above even the tiny percentage who have done well in FLP due to lucky timing and mass recruiting, are now making no money, verging on bankrupt or actually bankrupt (even if they are still selling the dream to potential sign ups).

Don’t walk away, run.

I mean, it’s only worth it if you are on the top of it.

It’s an MLM. Run. Don’t touch it with a barge pole.

blog.usejournal.com/why-are-people-still-defending-mlms-c1d6ea878f83?gi=8c49ff308ec6

Two excellent articles on Forever Living:

www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/how-much-money-can-you-earn-at-mlm-forever-living/

www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/the-lies-and-dark-secrets-top-forever-living-managers-are-hiding/

Run away. I tried it, 2 years later nobody wanted the products, nobody wanted to join my team (the ONLY way you can make money) and I spent a bomb on training, buying products to try myself.

I did everything the up line told me too, have it a good go and still nothing, the only winners are the ones at the top who are really good at "selling the dream".

Regrettably, the Multi Level Marketing business model is fatally flawed. Only those at the top of the pyramiddy-shaped scheme will stand any chance of making a real income.

They will do this principally by being given money by the people they recruit.

Then those people will recruit others and send money up to the pointy bit at the top.

Then those people will recruit other people and they will also send money up to the top of the pointy bit. Ad infinitum.

All the people who have been recruited will have to pay money for products every month in order to be eligible for promotions.

This is why the recruits ARE the customers in reality. They fund the uplines. They take all the debt upon themselves. They pay for EVERYTHING. They do not make a living income.

@gillys please ask your husband to do proper research into MLM business model. Ask if he will ask the upline who wants to recruit him for an Income Statement from Forever Living. I've never seen one from them but other MLM's do publish them and they prove that the vast majority of recruits/reps make a net loss i.e. it costs you money to be a rep.

If you want to purchase aloe vera stuff, go to Holland and Barrett as they have organic versions similar to FL's stuff and it is a quarter of the price. Alternatively, pop along to ASDA or Tesco and get it for a fraction of the price. Even better, £1 shop sells aloe vera drinks.

Bottom line is, it doesn't matter what the product is that is being sold, that is irrelevant. What matters is the recruitment and endless cycle of money taken from recruits every month and funnelled up the pyramid to the person at the very top. That is why Multi Level Marketing companies are scams.

Read the Elle beau blog. Different MLM but see if any of the recruitment tactics are the same. She how she describes how it made her view her friends and family and all the crap that goes on behind the scenes like “fake it till you make it. (i.e. lie to draw others in).

ellebeaublog.com/poonique/