To remind those living in tourist areas not to assume people aren't local!

[GlummyMcGlummerson]

I was born and raised in Yorkshire, but spent my whole adult life living in Scotland.

I'm now back in my hometown, armed with a mild Scottish accent I accidentally picked up after 18 years living there . Went for a walk in a popular tourist area today, a 10 minute drive from my home, with my DC. I heard two sets of people grumble about people travelling to come to the Dales after they heard me chatting to the DC. There were also a few posts on local Facebook groups about our-of-towners - I may be paranoid but one said "One family came from as far as Scotland!" - so possibly referring to me!

I've also seen it on another thread too someone saying that people from the Midlands were in Devon this week. No mention of how they knew where they came from

Unless you actually ask them and they confirm they aren't locals, please don't assume. Some people do move to new places! And while I'm at it I don't actually think local areas "belong" to local people any more than they belong anyone else and I'm a bit when locals grumble about tourists.

Also I managed to snap a picture of a couple who grumbled at me. Bastards

What is wrong with sitting in cars? There was a huge queue for a drive through on my Facebook and people were criticising them saying they were killing people. It was the queueing that they were objecting, not getting the takeaway, and yet you are not spreading Covid by being somewhere in your car. You need to get out of your car and mix with others to spread Covid.

And the claim your might break down and need assistance doesn’t ring true either - especially considering how busy the AA are dealing with flat batteries of cars that haven’t been driven enough.

*dealing with flat batteries at people’s homes not out and about.

Where I live in NE Scotland it is terrible. You're not local till there's three generations in the graveyard. All my kids were born here and are not considered local.

What is wrong with sitting in cars?

Unless, the car is electric or the engine is turned off, you are creating pollution.

Not sure where the extraneous comma came from.

Ok, what is wrong with sitting in cars with the engine turned off?

Haven't rtft, but as a lifelong southerner now living in Cumbria on the edge of the Lake District national park, I agree that YANBU.

According to the police Twitter, it's not an essential journey - which are:

1. To get food
2. To get medication

Then separately it mentions exercise and that you can 'rest' for a very short period only.

And, I say that being the "tourist having a picnic" who was fined £60 with where I was sat pictured minutes afterwards. I'm neither a tourist or was having a picnic. I was on my way to collect medication and sitting down sorting out my (very) poor blood sugar (as I can no longer access foods which helped me to control it).

Yes I complained, but as they're so busy they won't reply for at least six weeks I paid £30 and expect that money to be reimbursed (apparently all illegal fines will be once the courts are all open).

Legally I can sit and fix my blood sugars and rest due to being in pain and I can go and collect my medication which, had they rung the pharmacy would have been confirmed.

Today I saw people sat actually having a picnic, police walking past chatting. There are signs everywhere saying if caught having a picnic you will be fined. Clearly only if you're certain people.

Sorry that's why sitting in a car is wrong. Supposedly.

@ALeapOfFaith

Please don't let their Facebook messages put you off; it won't have been you they're referring to. We have had some pretty entitled people coming down during lockdown (as it doesn't apply to them) and people down here are scared as we do only have the one main hospital and a large percentage of our population is elderly.

Cornwall welcomes and depends on tourism; it's our main industry but we are only too aware we're going to be getting a big surge in cases as the tourists come down and that is making a lot of people very scared and people can say things they don't really mean when they're frightened.

*According to the police Twitter, it's not an essential journey - which are:1. To get food

1. To get medication.Then separately it mentions exercise and that you can 'rest' for a very short period only.*

That's not up-to-date. The new government advice says you are allowed out for as much exercise as you like, and for leisure, including sitting having a picnic in a park as long as it's with members of your household and you keep your distance from others. The advice is therefore no longer that you go out only if necessary.

I’m getting a bit annoyed with the attitudes of some people thinking they ‘own’ a place just because they live there and think they can dictate who can, and can’t, visit. Lots of these places actually rely on the revenue created by tourism. Nasty.

Lazylinguist if you live in wales or scotland and NI that is the rules. We are still on full lock down here

Fair enough. I'm in England, so presumably I can sit in my car to my heart's content. Sounds very exciting.

lazylinguist sorry I should have said I'm in Wales.

I live rurally (Scottish village). About 3 miles away there is popular spot - very well known film location. There are people parking nearby - this causes constant complaints. On local Facebook, one woman stated she had phoned the police about this. This individual has been sacked, not once, but twice, for stealing large amounts of money and goods from her employers. Also, her daughter, from mid-teens, has 2 sons by one of the local drug dealers. Talk about casting stones!

And London is recording very low numbers of new cases and is on track to be COVID free within a couple of weeks, according to Public Health England.

Mmm. That's irresponsible reporting. I couldn't find a link to the modelling anywhere when I read those articles, but I think what PHE have is a model showing that if London follows the downward track it's on, then it would be free. But let's think about this. For London to continue to follow that track, we would have to continue to behave in exactly the way we're doing right now, with the furloughed staying in, and only the people who have been working throughout on the move. Are we doing that?

Nope! We're all flooding back to work. It is to be hoped that spread in our capital can be kept under control, and this is a good indicator that that is possible, but that is not the same thing as 'Covid free' .

Agree completely @PotholeParadise
It's incredibly irresponsible reporting. And the journalists writing that are presumably bright enough. They've written what they must know to be utter nonsense in the full knowledge of the likely consequences. Many more avoidable deaths. And further economic disruption as a result.

It's a feeble lie though. I suspect most people won't fall for it.

Aside from the crowded public transport and, unlike many other countries, no mandatory mask wearing on it, there's the totally unrestricted airports.

It's impossible for London, or any airport city, to be free of Covid whilst hundreds of thousands are arriving at our airports. No checks, no quarantine. It's a risk to the rest of the UK too. No one knows where all these arrivals travel on to.

This individual has been sacked, not once, but twice, for stealing large amounts of money and goods from her employers. Also, her daughter, from mid-teens, has 2 sons by one of the local drug dealers. Talk about casting stones!

Wtf has that got to do with anything

I've seen very little responsible reporting.

Yet again today the council and local rag are showing off about how safe it is where I am.

Gov tested something stupid like 1% of people and 10% of those where positive. In a tiny place barely accessible to anyone and no it's not in the hospital.

Most of the replies were joyful about how safe it is. I, and another person were deleted and banned for saying it's irresponsible reporting.

Not least because we are again being flooded with actual tourists, as opposed to locals like me that just look like them supposedly; stupid questions like where's the sea? Is a give away. As is where's your asda?

And why are all these people here? Because it's on social media it's safe.

Ffs.

@ITonyah - if you can't see the obvious relevance/irony - no point trying to explain.

Nope! We're all flooding back to work. It is to be hoped that spread in our capital can be kept under control, and this is a good indicator that that is possible, but that is not the same thing as 'Covid free'

People aren’t all flooding back to work what utter nonsense. Lots are still on furlough, lots are in industries that have to be shut and lots are able to wfh and will be for the foreseeable future.

flooded with actual tourists

Flooding is the new ‘flouting’ I see

We bought fish and chips and sat in the car eating them looking at the sea. It was lovely. DH is disabled and hasn't been able to get out so just being out in the car was great. There was parking free all along the front so it wasn't that busy but there were families about, it was nice watching kids playing, dogs running about etc.

I can't get over the fact that people actually stop and ask people who they don't recognise where they are from?

We can go anywhere now within our own country, no "rules" are being broken.

I've yet to see a poster from say London, that the locals are giving strangers the Spanish inquisition.

FWIW I havn't been outside my own town but if I did and some nosey busybody asked me they would get very short shrift.