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Quarantine for people arriving from abroad

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NoSoapAndGory · 10/05/2020 11:07

The news indicates that Boris will announce a 2 week quarantine for all non-UK flight arrivals from the end of May.

I completely agree with this and am stunned that it hasn't been done sooner.

Reading the piece in the Guardian it seems that there are still thousands of people stranded abroad. That must but incredibly frightening but surely i am not being unreasonable to think that this measure is not only necessary but also woefully, unforgivably late?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/09/two-week-coronavirus-quarantine-to-be-announced-for-uk-arrivals?CMP=ShareAndroidApppNewsFeed

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mencken · 10/05/2020 11:30

yes, I agree that we should have pulled up the drawbridge long ago. There has of course been nothing to stop those returning from abroad from quarantining themselves, which at least one person I know did. Not easy for those who had jobs to go back to, of course, so it needs to be mandated.

and yes, this means that a trip abroad turns into an extra two weeks off work for many which will mean no going abroad.

Fluffybutter · 10/05/2020 11:35

I think it’s pointless now .
This should have been in place when lockdown was first announced .
Why do it now when they’re talking about easing lockdown ?
Makes no sense and will just damage the economy further.
A cheap publicity stunt to try and make the government look like they’re doing something useful.

BananaPop2020 · 10/05/2020 11:35

I am really struggling to see how this is is going to work. This definitely limits travel to a very small percentage of the population, and I hope it is reviewed on a regular basis. I completely agree that it is woefully late.

YeahWhatevver · 10/05/2020 12:05

I think this is how NZ and Australia dealt with it so effectively.

But of course, it's OK for them... They're an island nation (have genuinely read this comment online)! Grin

QueenOfWinterfell · 10/05/2020 12:13

Should’ve been implemented at the start of March. A woefully late reaction by the government as usual.

Lifeisabeach09 · 10/05/2020 12:15

Agree with above. Should have been done at start.

PinkMic · 10/05/2020 12:16

I'm obviously completely naive as I was shocked to find that people were still flying in without this happening.

I don't see how instigating it now will help the shit show we are already in.

yellowbrickwhorl · 10/05/2020 12:17

Agree with others. Talk about shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted. Who are all these people flying all over the place anyway? They can't all be stranded Brits finally getting a flight back from wherever.

blubberyboo · 10/05/2020 12:19

Pointless now.
Yes we should have had lockdown a few weeks earlier and insisted on quarantining all entries to the country back then. Even back in jan or feb. That might have reduced the spread significantly.
It might be fine to do now for a period of time while general travel and holidays aren’t happening anyway
But once we start to ease restrictions and get foreign travel going again it will be no good as nobody will go on holiday if they have to isolate for 2 weeks afterwards. And airlines aren’t going to put on flights unless they think they will be full of people who are able to comply

DippyAvocado · 10/05/2020 12:22

From what I've read, it relies on people self-isolating? So completely different to Australia and NZ where new arrivals were housed in government-funded accommodation to ensure the qurantine actually brook place.

caperberries · 10/05/2020 12:22

Who are all these people flying all over the place anyway? They can't all be stranded Brits finally getting a flight back from wherever.

I've wondered the same

Frenchfancy · 10/05/2020 12:25

Pointless unless they actually put people in a hotel under guard like the Chinese. They are just telling people to stay at home but not really enforcing it.

Weepingwillows12 · 10/05/2020 12:47

We havent actually closed our borders. There are flights coming in from countries who also havent. Most airlines are flying at around 5 to 10% normal capacity, some of which may be cargo only or charter repatriation flights but still there are some people arriving and leaving still. I know someone who was working here and was initially planning to stay but then decided she was better off heading back to her home country after all so left last week.

IllegalFred · 10/05/2020 12:54

How do the people arriving back to the UK get from the airport to their homes to start quarantine? Wondering if I'll have to quarantine too if i pick them up from the airport

My parents will hopefully be flying back in the next few weeks, their original flights were cancelled. They're not stranded as such as they're with my brother in his home, but they do need to come home at some point.

QuillBill · 10/05/2020 13:23

My Australian friend returned from Maylaysia and was housed in halls of residence for two weeks.

Deelish75 · 10/05/2020 13:56

I am stunned it's only being done now but I'm glad they are. This virus is more under control now than it was back in March so it makes sense to stop people from importing it.
My only concern is how are people going to get from the airport to their quarantine address? Are our airport hotels empty? It would make sense to quarantine people in those like they do in other countries.

ChandosRoad · 11/05/2020 14:02

In the Channel Islands we closed our borders right at the start. We've had no sea or air travel available to us as residents (unless it's for a Channel Island government-approved sanctioned emergency reason) and no one coming in, unless they were one of the very few stranded abroad in the early days. Even then, it was very difficult to get back. We've also had clear time limits on going out every day (2 hours a day at first, then 4 hours, now 6 hours) and what we can and can't do (but we've been allowed to swim in the sea, or go surfing/paddle boarding as long as the rules are obeyed - and, mostly, they have been).

Subsequently, our numbers are much lower than the mainland's per head of population (only 1 new case confirmed in the last 9 days, and a run of 6 days with no new cases at all) , and no care homes/nursing homes have seen the virus take hold and run riot. Yes, there have been isolated deaths in several care homes, but the odd 1 here and there, not running rife like the UK.

In Jersey we've just opened pubs and restaurants for outdoor eating (compulsory advance booking, with what we're calling 'physical distancing' here applied, and anyone sitting at a table must be from the same household). Our bigger 'non-essential' shops can also open this week (so we can buy clothes and household items) and if that all goes well, we'll continue opening up the island to ourselves. Schools will look to start opening to more pupils on June 1st (one of my DCs works in a school, so has been at work throughout anyway)

But we can only continue to do make these strides forward if we keep our borders closed. As residents, we're worried that as soon as they open, the virus will flood back in. That the UK government will press for us to accept business and leisure travellers from the mainland, and our government will want to do the same, while many just want to go 'full New Zealand' and keep borders closed for at least the next 4-6 months, or until the UK catches up with us. The mainland's policy just looks a mess from where we're standing (and no one on mainstream news refers to how the Crown Dependencies are doing, so we feel even more isolated!).

Our tourist season is already negated for this year, so we won't lose much from closed borders than we've already lost. It's tough on us, because being trapped on a 9x5 piece of granite for months on end is not much fun. Our economy, internally, in the absence of visitors, needs us to open up internally and kick-start ourselves, but without the risk of the virus being imported through our borders. The UK needs to do the same, but it can't while its rates remain so high because it's lost its grip on who's coming in and where they're going when they get there.

Usually, people here yearn to 'get off the rock' at least 1-2 times a year, if not more! You need to for your sanity (everyone knows everyone - or, at the very least, someone knows someone you know!) so the isolation is hard right now. But worth it.

75 years ago the German occupying forces left our islands after we'd been abandoned by Churchill to fend for ourselves in the face of the Germans advancing our way. We survived then, and we'll survive now. We saw off the German occupying army (who were all starving, along with the rest of the islanders, by the time Liberation Day came on May 9th 1945 - D-Day was a good thing for everyone except the Channel Islands, as it cut off what meagre supplies the island had been getting) and we'll see off this virus.

But we don't want to invite it back in any time soon, and I really feel for my family members on the mainland who are in despair at the lack of decisive action about border security and compulsory isolation for the thousands of people who continue to arrive by plane into the major airports.

Too little, too late, Boris. And that's without the ongoing confusion he seems to have kicked off yesterday about what you can and can't do! Watching the Coronavirus update this afternoon will be fun... Confused Hmm

LetsGoFlyAKiteee · 11/05/2020 14:07

This is silly. Should've been done right at the start and crazy that it wasnt.

jamimmi · 11/05/2020 14:14

Ah yes another exemption just announced you sont have to isolate coming from
France because he and the French have discussed it. Obviously they got the viruses agreement not to travel too... Now can I oo on my Spanish holiday and not quarantine if I go via France 🤔

Nosenseofhumour · 11/05/2020 14:15

Why are flights from France exempt?! This makes no sense!!

Baaaahhhhh · 11/05/2020 14:19

There was absolutely no point in doing it before or early on in lockdown as the infection was already rampant in the community, those coming back were Brits, and when they got back, the country was in lockdown, so where the hell were they going to go anyway?? They just went home, effectively being in isolation, along with the rest of us.

Now that the rate is going down, and community transmission is on the way down, it makes sense to introduce isolation measures, which can be tracked and traced, when the systems are in place.

I am always somewhat bemused by posters who say we should have closed all borders in Feb/March, completely ignoring the fact that several hundred thousand Brits had to get back to the UK from holidays or work. At the same time, there were multiple petitions to get everyone home from India and Australia and Cambodia and wherever, and saying that the government was too slow to intervene to get them returned.

Yugi · 11/05/2020 14:23

I suspect France is exempt because so much of our food arrives on lorries from Calais.

MingeofDeath · 11/05/2020 14:26

I was amazed to learn that it hadn't been implemented already. We should have done what New Zealand did from the start.

Deviantslagheap · 11/05/2020 14:29

We're still abroad. While I agree with the quarantine I'm not sure where we're going to go as we both have housemates.

Rezie · 11/05/2020 14:36

This should have been put in place in every country back in March. This is where a lot of countries messed up. And I do think it should be still in place. I also don't agree with not counting France in this. While I do understand that everything is political but this really shouldn't be an agreement between 2 countries.

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