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Co-parenting struggle

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Namechanged6547 · 07/05/2020 08:24

Hi all
I need to vent and get some views on this please I’ll try and keep it short as there is so much to this story.
My DD has just turned 1 and is due to start overnights with her father next week which we have been building up to for a while now.
Me and her father haven’t had the easiest relationship, I find him incredibly unreasonable and hard to deal with. Hes always up and down emotionally and I seem to be the person who gets the brunt of his frustration. I’ve had battles with him since the beginning of finding out I was pregnant as it wasn’t planned, he had a go at me for not being on a pill which he knew about anyway and took no responsibility for it either. We split whilst I was pregnant because he was too up and down. He got a new girlfriend when I was four months pregnant but still always asked to take me on dates and every time I declined I’d get messages of abuse, he’d put words in my mouth and says things like ‘I can’t believe you don’t want me to be a dad to our daughter’ when we argued even though I never ever said anything of the sort. When she was 6 weeks old he sent me message after message demanding to take her for the whole day even though she was EBF, he said I breastfed on purpose to stop their bond and it was selfish, has repeatedly cancelled visits to see her including because he had IBS 4 times, once was food poisoning, once was because he had a leak in his bathroom, once because his mum was unwell, once because his gran fell over and he had to look after her (he never ever sees his gran otherwise), once because he hurt his hand and couldn’t drive to see our DD so I offered to drive her to him, he said no to that. He took me to mediation when she was 5 months old because I said no to him having her the whole weekend Friday to Sunday including overnight stays as at the time he’d never had her on his own longer than 6 hours. He always tells me he’s going to be angry if I get in another relationship even though he’s had others since we split. But despite this after the 2nd mediation I agreed to everything he wanted, and we have made progress to starting the overnights soon as he has been consistent recently. He asked for extra days during the lockdown to which I agreed - he’s had everything he wants. Recently though little things have cropped up like him forgetting to give her a bottle in the afternoon and I said to him thanks for being honest but please remember next time as she does usually drink the whole thing. I went out and bought him a set of bath and moisturisers that I use for DD thinking it was a nice thing to do and basically that was a mistake as he then messaged saying he feels I’m controlling and don’t trust him because I pick at him all the time. This couldn’t be less true, I hold my tongue all the time to avoid arguing. I said I had to mention the milk thing because it’s important - it was never about nit picking at all! Anyway now he’s saying he will not be messaging me to tell me how DD is when she stays there except the first night which I find really hard to deal with. I am still battling PND so I am quite emotional a lot of the time and he knows this I never ask for lots of messages I just ask him to send me one to let me know how she is when she’s with him but he’s saying he won’t be doing this because it’s only for my mental benefit and not in the interest of our DD for me to know how she is. He will only contact me if there’s an emergency. I just feel like he’s punishing me and I don’t know why. It’s been like this since the beginning and I’ve never denied him one single thing. He tells me I’m impossible to reason with and I should consider myself lucky because some dads would make my life extremely difficult.
I guess I want to know if I’m unreasonable to want to know how she is just by a simple text when she stays the whole weekend, she’s only 1 and it is a big step as he has never lived with us so he’s never spent a night with her and it’s such a big transition for everyone involved.
Thank you for reading sorry it’s such a long post I’m just feeling very overwhelmed.

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Booboostwo · 07/05/2020 08:32

You are not unreasonable to ask for a text or two to update you and it must be very difficult to have shared contact when she is so little.

However, I suspect he is using this as a stick to beat you with. If he was a reasonable man he would simply send a text and you could do the same for him. But it sounds like the is using your (reasonable) need to stay in touch to hurt you. Unfortunately the only solution is not to give him the power. You may have to pretend that you do not need the updates. Equally do not send him updates and definitely do not buy creams, etc. I know you did it for your DD but it increases the points of contact.

Namechanged6547 · 07/05/2020 08:35

Thank you. I do really feel like he is only doing this to hurt me because he knows it’s a big step for me. I feel a bit helpless as a mum and I don’t know if that’s my depression or the way he treats me. I just feel so upset that I’ve given him everything and he still finds fault in what I do and punishes me so cruelly. Thank you for responding. I do send him photos of her every day (he asked for this at mediation) but I don’t feel I should do that if I’m not being given anything back.

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GabriellaMontez · 07/05/2020 08:42

Does he have a relationship with your daughter? Or has he cancelled too many sessions?

Is it really in her interests to go for a whole weekend? Is their relationship good. You say he cancelled 4 times. Out of how many?

I dont think you're unreasonable to ask for a text.

I think it may have been a mistake to give him his way too easily. Some people get given an inch and take a mile.

I wouldn't send anymore items at all. Make sure everything is his responsibility when he's with her. I understand it wasnt controlling but it could come across as that.

GabriellaMontez · 07/05/2020 08:45

I'm trying to put this clearly and kindly.

You say he has everything he asked for.

Why? Is it because you think this is best for your daughter? Or because you're trying to keep him happy?

HeyDuggeesCakeBadge · 07/05/2020 08:49

So he's demanded contact every day when she is with you but he won't reciprocate. What an utter wanker. As pp said, this is a power play, you may need to pretend you don't care (i would also find this excruciating - so not an easy ask). I would also stop sending him photos and tell him exactly why.

HeyDuggeesCakeBadge · 07/05/2020 08:50

And stop giving him his way all the time. He is taking the piss.

Namechanged6547 · 07/05/2020 08:52

He does have a relationship with her, he cancelled probably one in every four times he was due to see her up until Christmas, then had the spouts of IBS from Dec to jan
As I said though it’s been more consistent recently. The reason I bought him stuff is because until about 8 weeks ago he had nothing in his house for her. He doesn’t have a pram still and I say he’s always welcome to borrow mine. He used my car seat until December he just never ever prepared. He didn’t buy a single thing when I was pregnant either and I know he’s probably having to fork out a lot of money in one go now like the cot and monitor etc so it was just a gesture but yes it’s been taken very out of context. I never want to be one of those women who make things difficult and I wanted to try and always be fair but I feel like the person who’s really getting seen off is me and I’m frankly pissed off because I don’t feel it’s deserved!

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Namechanged6547 · 07/05/2020 08:54

@GabriellaMontez your question is totally valid and I know the point you’re making. I given him everything to keep him happy because the harassment he used to give me was unbearable and made me so depressed it was hard for me to cope and so I suppose I decided it was best for my DD to have a functioning mum who says yes all the time than someone who’s always crying and emotional but it’s not right. What I have done is probably more damaging and I’m scared she will see me as weak for always avoiding conflict!

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Delbelleber · 07/05/2020 08:55

He sounds like a nightmare and yanbu.
Is he on the birth certificate?

opticaldelusion · 07/05/2020 08:56

If he has nothing for her then he's neglecting her. It's not your job to sort that out for him. But you would be well within your rights to stop (long) contact until he can demonstrate he has everything she needs. And stop facilitating his uselessness.

GabriellaMontez · 07/05/2020 08:58

So what does he have now? Does he have a car seat and cot? Clothing? Pram? Nappies?

He wants to be the daddy (good for him). Has he got somewhere for her to sleep? Any equipment he needs? Has he prepared?

If not, why not?

Is he paying child maintenance?

Namechanged6547 · 07/05/2020 09:00

Thanks for the replies
@Delbelleber yes he is on the birth certificate
@opticaldelusion he bought the cot and monitor last week and has bought toys so he has the stuff now but literally only as of last week did he have what he needed for an overnight stay - despite dragging me through mediation wanting overnights last November. When I read this out loud I see what a fucking joke it really is.

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HeyDuggeesCakeBadge · 07/05/2020 09:03

Honestly OP - leave him to it now, anything he doesn't have now then he needs to sort, if he hasn't done overnights before then he is going to have a hard slog as I'm sure your DD won't be easy first time away from you. Let him crack on - I bet he calls you as its not as easy as he thinks it's going to be.

Namechanged6547 · 07/05/2020 09:04

@GabriellaMontez he has paid maintenance since she was 4 months old - that was very painful to arrange but it’s in place. He has the overnight stuff now. No pram but has nappies and wipes and the cot etc which was set up last week.
He got his own car seat in December. The reason I say these points is because it’s all relevant that he’s taken so long to buy anything - I’ve always let him use my nappies, wipes, milk, change bag. Never complained because he pays maintenance so I saw it as my job to pay for the nappies and everything like that. I just feel like the compromise is always on my part and yet he says I’m unreasonable for checking she’s ok

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Summercamping · 07/05/2020 09:05

He sounds like an impossible prick and I really feel for you.

As soon as possible, please try to arrange counselling for yourself so you can work out strategies to manage his behavior. He is trying to control you and with help, you can learn how to stop this.

But don't try to do it on your own, we all need support.

Summercamping · 07/05/2020 09:08

Oh and stop sending him daily photos, that's just letting him in your head every single day

Neverender · 07/05/2020 09:10

I have one of these. I've had to emotionally distance myself from his ups and downs, otherwise EVERYTHING is my fault. I find he's nicer when I act like I don't need anything. It's like a bloody tug of war.

If you can, for this overnight visit just act like you're really happy they can have some time together and you can relax. As soon as he's gone you can have a melt down but don't let him see any emotional reaction. It definitely helps.

Neverender · 07/05/2020 09:11

I also never 'expect' one single version of him. One day he'll be all happy and helpful and the next he'll be a right pain and try and throw criticisms at me - it's all about him as nothing I do or say changes.

Neverender · 07/05/2020 09:12

Posted too soon - if you can observe his behaviour from a distance (write it down or video phone calls so you can reflect on them later) it really helps

Thingsdogetbetter · 07/05/2020 09:29

You're trying to co-parent which I think is a mistake as he's not willing or reasonable. Perhaps look into the idea of parallel-parenting.

He's being a prick, but I do understand not buying stuff for overnights before he actually needed it. If he doesn't have a pram yet it doesn't endanger your dc and he'll work out fairly quickly if he needs one or not. You shouldn't be making nice gestures like buying baby stuff for him to use - he won't appreciate it and it won't make your life easier. If you really think he won't buy nappies or wipes himself then you suspect he'll be negligent. Which is a completely different issue from being a prick.

If you trust him to do the best for your dc, then you have to actually trust him and step back during his time with dc. I know she's your dc and everything you do is for her, but if he is to step up as her father you have to let him. Or at least let him try (danger or neglect not withstanding obviously).

I don't see his picture requests and your updates requests as the same thing at present. You have dc the vast majority of the time. He more be more open to this idea if you phrase it differently. At the moment he may be hearing this request as you don't trust him to keep her safe and you want to check up on him. Tell him it's because you'll miss her and would appreciate photos. Get sneaky and stop expecting him to be reasonable.

Thingsdogetbetter · 07/05/2020 09:31

Just to reiterate: I think he's a total prick! But hopefully he'll end up a decent father.

Namechanged6547 · 07/05/2020 09:48

@Neverender thank you. I never do get a single version of him, one minute he tells me I’m supportive of him and he’s lucky and thankful so share a child with me, the next I’m controlling unreasonable and irrational according to him. My mood and expectations have never changed and I have made sure I give consistent messages every single time. He’s very erratic, FaceTimes me 10 times in 5 hours when he has DD (I have never ever asked for this and often decline because it’s smothering) but because I mentioned the milk thing it’s suddenly switched to just one photo of DD being too much to ask. He’s also annoyed as he unloads on me emotionally a lot of the time and I’ve told him I want contact to be strictly about our DD and he’s not happy with this at all.

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Namechanged6547 · 07/05/2020 09:50

@Thingsdogetbetter what you’re saying makes sense and I thank you for your reply. I don’t have safeguarding concerns. It’s just our DD is quite hard work, not the best sleeper or eater so I know next weekend she’s going to struggle to sleep there I’ve only just mastered it in my house! This is why reassurance from him would be nice but I think I need to accept I won’t get it

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HappyintheHills · 07/05/2020 10:02

Legally and morally contact is all about DD

TwoDrifters2 · 07/05/2020 10:18

A bit of reverse psychology might work here.

When he takes her, if you’re looking nice and “dressed up” as if you’re about to go out and meet friends or do something nice for yourself, if you seem happy that you’re about to (finally!) get some relaxing adult time, you may find he is quick to be in contact as he will see it as his chance to ruin your afternoon/evening/weekend.

Especially if having his own DD for such a “length” of time doesn’t prove quite so idyllic as he’d envisaged, if she cries or frets for you. He may well start to resent the idea that you are off somewhere having fun, and you will soon receive a call/text/FaceTime request.

I know you shouldn’t have to lower yourself to playing mind games, but if it helps put you at ease and receive confirmation that your baby is ok, it may be worth it.