Nightmare neighbours

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It's long but I'll cut it as short as possible.

Me partner and kids moved in here 7 months ago. It's through a housing association and at first we loved it.

We noticed there very noisy I mean like constant slamming doors sometimes goes on until 2-3 in the morning I've already had to move my sons bedroom who's 10 months because he wasn't sleeping.

She's got 5 kids and she's a single mum. One of the kids particular is a nightmare he's always outside swearing and smashing glass bottles everywhere he's only 11, his little sister who's 5 she's lovely but often plays out until 11 at night. The other night they boy and some other boys were in there garden setting stuff on fire god knows where there mother was rang police they didn't want to know.

A few months back they were kicking a ball at my car so I asked them to drop they blanked me and did it again so I did scream at them and then got into a argument with there mother who defended them even though I seen it all. Then the next day my windows coincidently got egged.

Earlier on today the 11 year old boy was in the street with a bbq setting fire to it and other things it was right next to our cars so my partner went out to next door knocked her door and said do you know your kids setting things on fire she snapped and said yes I know I'll sort it.

We nipped shopping came home and the windows were egged again coincidence. She doesn't look after her kids very well,

Half the street have complained at various times and tried to get her evicted it went to court but she managed to blag her way out of it, her sons being tested for ADHD.

Why I feel for her going through that, she sits in her bedroom smoking weed all day, her kids run riot,

me and my partner are both working 12 hour shifts and to be honest am sick to death of coming home to this and the noise and the kids everywhere smashing stuff up and setting fire to stuff, there horrible to my kids breaking there stuff my kids(even though are not paying out atm )
Won't play out though fear of them.

And yes her children have been playing out through all of this despite the social distancing she doesn't care.

We're looking to move but it feels so unfair we both work our back sides for our home, it feels so unfair. There is a lot more they've done a lot more than this.

Please any advice I'm desperate

Thanks x

You have to record everything - complain often to the HA - get pictures, ask for cameras to be installed (or get your own). Persist - you can't live with this nightmare.

Pictures. Evidence. Social services. Police.

Hi. I know exactly what you are going through as I am in a similar situation as you- I work really long shifts and mine has been happening for 3 years and the housing association are useless. My neighbour has been bullying me, being racist, calling my terminally ill mum crippled, loud TV and music until the morning, always comes watching what we do- full time security when we leave or come back, it’s hell. Slamming doors and knocking on the wall by purpose to wake us up from sleeping . We are too scared to leave the house. We have had 346 incidents recorded and they have evidence on a Noise app. Has the Housing Association been involved? You may be able to do a Community Trigger through the council. Fingers crossed you get sorted soon! X

Why did you call the police for the fire? Call the fire brigade next time he's setting fire to anything - they will be able to escalate it appropriately.

Unfortunately I've learned through experience that you have to be the bigger scarier scummy bastard in these situations and I say this as a small disabled single Mother. It honestly works though.

Thankyou all,

The funny thing is before I moved she almost of evicted apparently most of the neighbourhood complained and were going mad. I think her kid causes a lot of trouble I feel bad he has a few problems but we can't keep living like this and she does absolutely nothing.
She's already got the social services involved and has a support worker I literally don't understand how there not in care. I've never argued with someone else's kid he's vile to people swearing abusive etc.

If she was struggling and was bothered it would be different but she doesn't care she's just as bad like I say she just smokes weed all day in her bedroom.

Can I ask for cameras to be put up? The housing association is called orbit. We don't really want to move as we love the house it's perfect for the kids and school and near work but I don't want to carry on going through this it's stressing us out.

The garden only has a small fence to so we can't even go on our garden without hearing her kids fing this and f*ing that

Ask the HA where you can put cctv up legally. Do it. Keep a record. Email your MP, EH and the HA with your findings..
No help. Newspaper...

And report her feral offspring to Ss -

She is neglecting them imo.

Wow egging your house is vandalism - sorry your experiencing this and after you’ve got home from your long shifts - last thing you need atm

Plus sounds like the poor kids are not properly supervisied and could come to harm - this needs to be sorted

Ide recommend your local pcso they were fab at sorting out our local feral tribe, iirc they told the ha they were breaking their tenancy by letting their dc behave like that and they could lose their home.
Hope you get it sorted theres nothing worse than vile neighbours.

OP get as much evidence as you can. You need to starr writing a diary of these incidents. What an absolutely awful situation for you. Get onto the council (and the police if any more anti-social behaviour occurs)
Good luck

Orbit might gift you CCTV cameras to record- it's a bit trickier for them to own them with various regulations to follow.
Is she under a suspended possession order? It would be quite unusual for them to get nothing at a possession claim, even if there were good defence points unless they had failed to follow their own policies or there were good Equality act (disability discrimination) or human rights issues but all the case law suggests even then persistent anti social tenants and their families get evicted.
Are social services involved?
Keep on at the housing association and hopefully they'll try again.

You will need to request permission for any CCTV but in the meantime you need to do a diary.

Ring tomorrow and ask to open an ASB case, they may provide diary sheets, but just keep a factual record of everything.

@boomboomboomboom I'm not sure exactly what happened but apparently the complaints stopped when the lady who use to live in my house left, and orbit were meant to fit cctv to have proof of what she was doing but they didn't so the judge dismissed it.

There still outside now pissing around on the streets I'm worried they will damage our cars it's so hard when I have no proof 😩

@TheGreatWave thanks I'll call them tomorrow, I'm also worried that complaining will further aggravate things and more will happen

Amazon have a wireless battery powered motion detecting cctv camera for around £80. Not exactly pennies but catalogues like Very or Littlewoods sell them and you can opt to pay interest free over 6 months. We have one and it's an absolute godsend. Antisocial behaviour has stopped completely around my property now the kids (and mainly their lazy, feckless parents) know I have CCTV and will name and shame the little shits publicly as well as the footage being handed over to the police.

I can not recommend cctv highly enough. Seriously. If it doesn't stop them, it is evidence to have them served with ASBOs or evicted.

Sorry, the cctv system is called Blink XT2.

It picks up sound too, really, REALLY well. Mine can hear whistling from streets away so any effing and blinding at you would be captured.

Sounds like the complaints stopped before you moved in, unless there was a big mess up in the court case.
Get on at them tomorrow. Keep a detailed diary of all asb, noise, criminal damage, cannabis smoking etc. Hopefully they can start proceedings again.
PCSO is also a good shout as they can talk to the 11yr kid and mother, if she can be bothered to listen. Even if the behaviour doesn't change, it all paints a picture of inability or unwillingness to control her household . Hopefully orbit will have enough evidence and decent legal representation to get a possession order next time.

Children wandering about outside at this time of night surely that warrants a call to 101?.I feel for you OP my neighbours are a massive pain keep reporting try not to engage with them.

Surely the police should be involved since these feral kids are out mixing with other families kids, all hours of the night in midst of this pandemic??

A fine for the feckless mother as well as a social work referral...each and every time.

Make sure you keep a diary of events and send it weekly to the housing association, they need to know what's going on.

Where are they getting all the eggs from? Is there a local corner shop nearby?? A word in their ear is needed too about letting kids in and about all the undoubtedly stolen eggs.

She's already under social services she's blaming it all on her son but she doesn't do anything about him, He batters his poor little sister! She to high on weed all the time to give a crap.

Im just worried ringing them she'll know it's from us and will fuel the fire if you know what I mean, I know several neighbours have rang the social on her,

I'm heavily pregnant to I'm dreading bringing my baby home to all of this 😩

@CallMeRachel there from there mums house I think I saw a empty egg carton chucked on my garden floor by the fence

Op I really feel for you. I have twatty neighbours too and I'm fed up of hiding in my own house.
I doubt the social will do anything at all about the kids. After eventually cracking and reporting my neighbours, I was told by social services that they don't visit people any more. They also said they had no knowledge of her - but I know she has a caseworker so is known to them. They were very unhelpful and had no interest whatsoever.

I brought my baby home a few weeks ago and since then I've had to put up with threats, screaming and shouting at me, refusing to leave my property (mine is privately owned, she's a council tenant). Today she's had someone trying to intimidate me from the top of my drive and yelling abuse at me - and I haven't even done anything. She thinks we have some sort of issue going between us when all I want is a quiet life and to ignore her.
I hope you don't encounter any of this once your baby is home. Try the cctv option (I have it but it hasn't fully deterred my neighbour).

I suppose your last option would be to move. I'm trying to sell my home but who would want to live next door to a massive twat? I'll have to declare her behaviour to the new owner and that will lose me the sale.

Honestly those poor kids Are being dragged up, it’s heartbreaking. I would Maybe email the school that they go to, and let them know your concerns they will have to do something.

I can’t imagine it changing with a mother like that, I would just try and get out of that neighbour hood ASAP.