To think that those of us who work in the restaurant trade are finished?

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It's the Daily Fail, I know.

But if true very bad news for those of us in the restaurant trade.

It feels like a long drawn out death to me.

Nobody else deeply worried?

My partner works in the restaurant trade and yes, we're deeply concerned that he won't have a job to go back to.
The restaurant trade is all he knows and he's worked in it for over 20 years.
He's never had to worry about finding work before, as a chef you can walk into another job the same day.
But now he's having endless sleepless nights worrying.
I am too but largely trying to keep it to myself so as not to worry him more.

I think alot of trades are finished. I don't think I will have a job to go back to either.

I'm really sorry Borlotti. It's a rotten situation. And I cannot see any way out of it at present.

If large parts of the country/economy are to survive I do wonder if the point will come where we will simply have to be allowed to weigh the risks and make the choice for ourselves whether we resume normality or not. I can't see any other way round it.

I think literally any industry that requires you to be anywhere near another person should be worried. Having said that, let’s wait and see what Boris actually says on Sunday....
If you read the exit plans for other countries restaurants etc all feature in there at some point. This reopening plan sounds particularly draconian and if it lasts for 6-12m huge numbers will be impacted, including industries that actually can go back to work based on this.
I’m trying to stay calm until Sunday anyway as it leaves such a gaping hole for some people that I’m retaining hope Boris will talk about the options there. The Fail are course known for putting the worst possible spin on things....

Yes, I think it's going to be a long road back to life as we knew it, and the leisure industry and the industries which supply it are going to be very hard hit.

And that knocks on through the economy, that sector isn't making any business deals (impact on estate agents, lawyers, brokers, accountants), doesn't have the same volume of employees (impact on all of the economy as those employees don't have the disposable income), premises standing empty (impact on landlords income, pension funds, local government business rates income), etc etc.

Add to that the impacts on the tourism sector and the flow through from that.

And other sectors.

I hope we bounce back, I'm not at all confident we will.

I can't imagine going out to a restaurant for some time even if they open soon. I think lots of people will remain very cautious and others will have no spare cash for something that isn't a necessity......Sorry.

The same is true for all the coffee shops. If it gets to the stage of going out shopping I will do just that and go home.

I'm a self employed cleaner and I'm very worried too. Can't see too many elderly people letting me in their homes anytime soon.
When this started customers were still paying me, a few of them haven't now , for a couple of weeks.

The trouble is, it's not as simple as weighing up risks and making your own choices

You need to get enough customers through the door and if numbers are down say 30%....Roughly the percentage of vulnerable plus shielded people , it may be very hard to make a living

I think a better , medium term, solution is needed for the industries like restaurants and theatres

Although I'm not in the restaurant trade but I have family who are, including a restaurant supplies supplier whose business will also be decimated if the industry stays closed. The whole knock-on effect would be huge.

Many jobs will have to change or will cease to exist.

@feetfreckles

I meant more as a customer than as an employer.

I think there will be a huge demand for eating out once lockdown is lifted but agree that in my workplace there will be very few people back in the office so the canteen won't be needed for some time to come.

I don't think it's all or nothing.

A village pub near me has adapted and is doing a roaring trade in takeaway meals/ crisps/ soft drinks and takeaway pints, bottles of wine etc. They also sell (on an honesty box system) quite a bit of home baking, fresh bread and basic groceries that they can get hold of in bulk e.g flour, sugar, potatoes etc. I'm not worried about them, they seem busier than ever.

BUT there isn't even a village shop in the village so they have a captive audience and a good reputation for food already.

Comparatively, another local pub in a different village set off trying to do takeaway but it was the kind of pub people went for the atmosphere really not the food and greasy cold scampi and chips in a sweaty takeaway box for £10 isn't pulling the punters in, when they can instead nip to the shop and get a frozen pizza and a bottle of wine for £10 instead.

Wearealldoomed I was going to say the same as others have, in that even if restaurants were to reopen I just cannot see them getting the necessary footfall to make a profit and make it worthwhile.
As much as I'm missing dining out, I would not risk going to a restaurant if they opened too soon. I imagine I'm not alone.
Everything really is rather shit right now and I imagine it will be for a long time.

I don't know. Look at the fact that Greggs had to cancel their plans to reopen because they were worried they'd be flooded.

I think they might have to adapt eg a lot more takeaway. Our local Gastro pub cutter has 3 tables outside. It could fit 30 odd over the summer I could see that working.

It sure won't be easy but I think A lot of ingenuity will start to happen.

Surely business will just have to adapt to the new normal? Home deliveries of food are still happening even through lockdown 🤷🏻‍♀️

But if you do belong in the category with a high chance of dying, going for a meal to support someone else's job looks less like a fun night out and more like a suicide choice . It feels like bullying if you expect such people to put aside their all too real fears.

I think that coffee shops, pubs and restaurants will struggle to survive. I used to go to Costa every weekend and then go out for lunch every Sunday. There is no chance of me reverting to doing this again when lockdown is relaxed.

Not long ago there was talk of how our high streets were being decimated by on-line shopping. Councils' responses were that high streets need to become entertainment centres, focussing on experiences, with many coffee shops and eateries. What will happen now?

Maybe high streets should just have retail space converted into dwellings instead? At least that would help with the housing crisis.

Eating out will change but it won’t be over.

Restaurants will be horribly hard hit. Not just because of the distancing rules but also because of the impact of so many people losing their jobs, or being on reduced income.

Mid week eating out will be hugely impacted by reduction in face to face business meetings. Almost half my evening visits to restaurants in the past year have been paid for by my work or by the expense account of someone I am dining with. Those meetings will be reduced or even cancelled, either because clients don’t want them or because employers will shelve that kind of expense as unnecessary.

It's very difficult for a lot of industries/people but what everyone needs to remember is that it's the VIRUS causing the problem, not the lockdown.

People seem to be focussing on blaming the Govt for the lockdown and what 'Boris will say' as if it would all go back to how it was if he lifted the lockdown.

The virus has changed life as we knew it (who could ever have imagined?!) not the Govt

I'm not sure what many of us are going to do, being in industries that are hugely affected, but what I do know is that a) we need to stay as locked down as we possibly can & not ignore the guidelines to get the R down it's tough but very beneficial at this stage! Be a bit more creative in what we will do (work wise) when the R us very low and keep social distancing up to keep the R down so people can work

It's shit -but it's the god awful virus causing it!

I was just speaking to dh about this who is generally far calmer and zen about these things than I am, who reminded me that
a. These are not even confirmed plans yet
b. However the fail might like to spin it, these are plans for right now
c. There are sectors like eg cinemas that can actually space people out fairly easily and well without it impacting too much on the experience. There are restaurants that will be able to manage too.
d. There are lots of people desperate to get out to places like restaurants again in the medium term - see threads on here about going out again after lockdown

And the point I made again that if you look at other countries plans then pretty much all of them mention a return for the leisure industry, just further down the line. It is very hard to stay positive right now but we’re still right in the eye of the storm really. If we can start opening back up and manage to keep things under control then it may not be as bad as we think.

I agree with @RoomR0613

I live in a touristy rural village in a beauty spot. Our high street is a mix of tasteful tourist tat, pubs/ restaurants and antiques and lifestyle.

Two of the tourist that shops have already gone into administration. As harsh as it sounds- we won’t miss them.

But almost all of the restaurants are small business and are doing a roaring trade in delivery and take away. The butchers had to take on a new man to do all his deliveries. The grocers has been flat out.

The fish and chip shop re-opens tonight for socially distanced takeaway. It is all anyone in the village is talking about.

So the nature of our shops is going to reshape. The stuff the villagers need will survive because we are still using it in lockdown.

But the tourists probably won’t be back in any kind of numbers any time soon- they were mostly from Europe, America and the Far East.

I think we’ll be surprised how things re-shape.

That is such a shame. Even if restaurants and pubs opened, I would imagine profit margins would be slashed if they had to implement strict social distancing measures and limit the number of customers/tables.

I think the days of a night out on the town are over. My city centre has hundreds of pubs and bars with crowds and queues to get in and everyone shoulder to shoulder at the bar. What will happen to them?

Sorry I meant to write more for my point b. That these are plans regarding the immediate return to work. 2 months ago we went bowling and went out to dinner. Who knows what the situation will be in another 2 months.