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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To give up on DS's father

15 replies

GrumpyMug2 · 04/05/2020 20:00

Opinions please

We were in lock down from March and since then he has had covid symptoms and then he was furloughed. When he was furloughed I said about taking DS but there has been a situation which he feels he can't have him at his. He has skyped him once but not made any contact beyond that. Not messaged, nothing.

AIBU to say that if you don't message and don't ask, why should I chase this? He obvs doesn't care?

For background he only ever had him 2hrs a week

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Curiosity101 · 04/05/2020 20:04

I feel for your son but there's only so much you can do. So long as you don't get in the way of contact then it's perfectly reasonable to let your ex know that the ball is in his court if he'd like to spend time with your son. Mention something about 'so long as you give me reasonable notice', but then leave it there.

PumpkinP · 04/05/2020 20:05

Why would you chase?? If he doesn’t contact he doesn’t contact.

GrumpyMug2 · 04/05/2020 20:08

I feel like I should be chasing but tbh I am tired and don't get why I should. But then feel bad for my son like I didn't push hard enough for him

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Curiosity101 · 04/05/2020 20:12

But then feel bad for my son like I didn't push hard enough for him

Realistically though, would it really be high-quality contact/bonding if his dad has to be 'forced' into it?

I do wonder if no father is potentially a better option than a visibly disinterested father.

PumpkinP · 04/05/2020 20:14

I’m not sure why you want so much contact with your ex? Do you want him to contact daily?

june2007 · 04/05/2020 20:15

2 hrs isn,t enough that's the prob in the first place, There probably isn,t that relationship.

Ihaveamind · 04/05/2020 20:18

The adults I know who had intermittent contact with useless fathers have been more hurt and have lower self esteem then the adults with fathers who were completely absent.
I would stop pushing and don't bend over backwards to accommodate contact if he comes looking either.

GrumpyMug2 · 04/05/2020 21:18

@PumpkinP I don't want daily contact, just want him to contact his son really and be a a person that looks to see his kid

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GrumpyMug2 · 04/05/2020 21:22

Anyway thanks, I think no contact is better than disinterested contact.

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GrumpyMug2 · 04/05/2020 21:47

I just would hate if my son turned round to me one day and said I didn't try or my ex said to him well she didn't contact me so I couldn't be a father. Even though I know it's him being a shitty excuse for a father

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Porcupineinwaiting · 04/05/2020 21:51

If your ds ever says that to you then you very calmly point out that you are not responsible for his father's (lack of) actions. If things carry on as they are, what would you say to him if he asks why you let his father mess him around for years?

Curiosity101 · 04/05/2020 22:05

I agree with @Porcupineinwaiting.

'I made sure he always knew our phone number and our address. I always made sure he knew he could spend time with you if he wanted to.'

I can't imagine your son saying that to you though though. If he grows up without a father then he may not care at all or potentially he may feel resentful towards him. But I'd make a point not to apologise for his father's disinterest. Otherwise you'll effectively bring him up to believe that it's somehow your fault.

Whatsername177 · 04/05/2020 22:12

A friend of mine has an ex like this. She stopped ringing and texting him and began emailing him. It started off monthly with an update of anything the kids had been up to and an offer of a suitable time to call, should he wish to. ( I believe it was initially in response to him accusing her in court of freezing him out of contact, when he had actually been so unreliable she refused to let him change his weekend and he stopped contact then took her to court.) She kept it very matter of fact in her emails:
Hello Disney Dad,
DC1 has a skating competition on the 3rd at 12pm. Date and venue supplied. Dd2 had a filing at the dentist. The girls have hobbies on Tuesday and Thursday and are at a birthday party saturday. Please feel free to call after 6pm on any other days.
Regards,
He rarely responded, when he did was abusive, and only occasionally called. He continued to be inconsistent with contact and was an absolute bastard to her and to their kids, albeit indirectly. Anyway, he eldest dc (now 17) had a meltdown and accused her mum of freezing her dad out after he gave her some bullshit story about how her evil mum wouldn't let him see her. My friend showed her DC the emails - she had always told the girls that she emailed their dad every month, but this time she let them read them. Over 60 emails where she told him about every parents evening and invited him to every birthday party and he never ever bothered. It helped her eldest dd to understand that it wasnt her mums fault.

Graphista · 04/05/2020 23:56

The adults I know who had intermittent contact with useless fathers have been more hurt and have lower self esteem then the adults with fathers who were completely absent

This!

I did similar to whatsernames friend and kept everything I had in writing, I tend to keep such things anyway but once I accepted my ex wasn't really interested in being dds father I planned for a potential future issue of him getting back in touch or her seeking him out and him blaming it all on me when actually I'd bent over backwards to facilitate the little contact he had in the early days.

Dd actually caught on due to something he did far earlier than I'd have liked and she confronted me about my covering for him (for her sake not his) and I had to admit I had not only been doing all the running but covering all expenses too.

At that point dd herself decided she wanted to know if he would make the effort or not and asked me to stop (by this point I couldn't afford it anyway) and I was sadly proven right.

Within 6 months he'd all but disappeared from dds life, by this point she was in high school and had her own phone, email address and sm accounts and so if he wanted a relationship with her without involving me it was perfectly possible, he just couldn't be arsed.

It hurts, it's absolutely heartbreaking but quite honestly I always advise on such threads that if it's looking like he isn't interested let him fade out of the kids lives as early as possible as this gives the kids a chance to forget them and not have years of being messed about, let down and repeatedly rejected. Which destroys them.

I hate my ex for what he's done to dd and there's nothing I can do about it.

You have the chance to handle things differently i recommend you do so.

Tigersneeze · 05/05/2020 08:50

I just would hate if my son turned round to me one day and said I didn't try or my ex said to him well she didn't contact me so I couldn't be a father.

^
would be a great opportunity to let your your son know that woman are not responsible for male behaviour.

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