Crazy neighbour, really worried

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My husband, myself and dd live in an end terrace, we had new neighbors move in about a year ago (they rent). We didn't get off to a great start as one of there sons was kicking a football up at the wall along the side of our house, my husband went and told him off which resulted in the mother kicking off at our front door.

Anyway things have gone from bad to worse. Her 15 year old son has been repeatedly playing really offensive music, really loud and has ignored our attempts at asking him to turn it down (my husband went outside one evening and shouted up at his bedroom window telling him to turn it down). Nothing changed so we reported them to environmental health.

Anyway tonight she has had a Beyoncé song on repeat and very loud all evening, we've tried repeatedly knocking on her door to ask for it to be turned down, but with no answer. She then repeatedly started banging on our joining wall later in the evening. The banging on the wall happens most evenings.

About 1/2 an hour ago she came banging on our door absolutely kicking off at us for repeatedly knocking on her door to ask for the music to be turned down.

Anyway she's now accusing my husband of being a paedophile for shouting up to her son and saying she's going to phone the police and report him !!!

I'm really scared. Anybody who knows my husband would laugh at such an accusation, but surely the police have to take this kind of thing seriously. It could rip our family apart. Dd is only 8 and is very close to both of us, I can't imagine what it would do to her if he had to move out.

Keep a note of everything and report regularly to the local council and your local police neighbourhood team.

I really feel for you. We're suffering at the hands of our neighbour and have been for three years now. She's an absolute narcissistic loony with paranoid schizophrenic tendencies....takes drugs, has a feral child, local rumours say she's on the game and it's certainly evidenced by the amount of men who are in and out when her boyfriend isn't there, undesirables turning up day and night, fights between her and her boyfriend, constant smell of strong cannibis, she can't talk....everything is shouted. She's spat at me, screamed verbal abuse to my face, I've had nails in my car tyres, she even videoed us looking at our son's new car on the street. She constantly lies to the police whenever they have to come out but thankfully she's known to them as she's always in trouble for some wrongdoing or another.

My husband and I are decent hardworking people with respectable jobs. We don't bother anyone and just want a quiet life.

She even accused me of being a peado when I included in my log that it made us uncomfortable when we could see her 7 year old feral brat bouncing on the trampoline naked (fgs....it wasn't as if we were deliberately looking!).

We rarely hear a peep from her over winter, but come summer she appears like a bad smell

Landlord is useless and does nothing. She was revving up again last week....making derogatory comments about me and sticking the middle finger up. I contacted the police and told them we will not tolerate another summer of this and if they don't deal with it we'll have to contact the police commissioner. They came out the next day, warned her and told her anymore of it and they're going for a community protection order. It's been a nightmare three years, and I really sympathise with you, but you just have to keep plodding on and logging everything.

We won't give up and we won't let some scrote push us into moving from a house we own.

To constantly bang on someone's door if they listen to music you don't like or deem to loud ( as none of us know how loud it was) is harassment fyi.

Playing music regardless of genre is not an issue and it would be very petty of you to report something like that.

Playing any loud music at night IS an issue and can be reported.

If it is racist music using the N word then it is hate music and can be reported. If you are black and find this word offensive then you can speak to them about it and ask that they play an edited version.

She's spat at me

@Footywife - that's awful. Can this not be reported to the police. I thought spitting at someone was an offence - I might be wrong.

Just seen your update op if it's past 11 you can report a noise disturbance I wouldn't accept that. I thought u were moaning about daytime songs being played. If it is as loud as you say and you are a end terrace surely they have another next door neighbour you could both complain? As for the type of music that's teenagers for you. I don't think much will come from complaining though I'd think seriously about moving. Banging on your wall record the noise with time and date on recording. But tbh if anything is done it will take months. Maybe take all the recordings to their landlord? Maybe she can't control son? Maybe he has learning difficulties and has lost the plot as doesn't want the drama so is trying to make you stop complaining by being a bully? Maybe the whole family is aload of nutters? I'd think in the future though how being tolerant and friendly at first with neighbours (ball incident) may not escalate things.

I'm not black but do find the N word really offensive. My husband pointed out that if he repeated any of his music at a football match he would be arrested

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Yes but the teenager isn't shouting them out at someone he's listening to a song. Your husband does sound immature tbh and isn't helping himself. If I were him I'd make sure I never spoke to the child again so couldn't be accused of things. Is the woman single as if your husband is banging her door she could claim she was frightened?

Yes of course if you are not black and you use the N word you would be arrested.

Tell her that you welcome her calling the police and have a full log of all the times she has tried to intimidate and bully your family.

Buy a book and write down EVERYTHING dated and timed.
Find out who the landlord is, send him recordings of her everytime. Remain totally calm. Do not answer the door unless you are calm and recording.

I understand getting annoyed if someone is playing loud music at night but you didn't say this in your OP but both times you did mention the type of music they were playing.

I think it's more the type of neighbours you have an issue with and not their actions.

My DB lives in a very rough part of salford and reported a hate crime when his neighbour played music with racist language, the police dealt with it a lot more seriously than they would a noise complaint. He ended up with a war on his hands anyway as they wanted one, nasty bastards, it took years to get rid of them. Good luck.

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Yes racist music is classed as hate music.

But rap music that uses the N word is not hate music and it is used by some black people as an anti-oppression term.

A neighbour of my daughters was causing noise issues like that. A different neighbour reported them to their landlord, and the behaviour stopped. I think that could be the best next step.

And the police will not take their allegation seriously, so I really wouldn't worry about that.

I agree with Poppi89 im sorry to say it and ready to be told off but I think you stated the problem .. your husband told the boy off. He shouted to the window tbh you both sound quite rude what they have done is not ok but you could have asked nicely

@Poppi89. it was reported. Unfortunately, when the police went round she lied and said I'd spat at her. In the absence of witnesses or evidence their hands were tied.

She's extremely volatile and often goes off on one when the police attend. They're very aware of her mental issues but she just won't accept any help to deal with them.

I've been too soft in the past and just accepted the police fobbing us off. We've decided no more though. We work hard for our home and we're not letting her spoilt it.

Also, I am black and so is my DB who made the complaint, the person playing the music was white.

It is so sad when this happens - everyone loses.

FootyWife - that must be so frustrating. Loads of the examples you have given are things that can't be proven either so she could just deny everything.

Surely.if this undesirable loud woman phoned the police, they would soon suss her out to be a nuisance and a bit rough, and capable of causing trouble and lying. Awful that you have to live near people like this. Not sure what you can do, except hope that they get booted out of their house soon.

I agree that everyone loses as it ends up becoming tit for tat.

Is it too late to be civil with them OP and see if once you stop complaining to them then they'll stop trying to wind you up?

Just had the husband/ partner at the front door threatening me, I just said I'm not listening to this and shut the door.

I've now phoned 101 again to report it and while on the phone mentioned her threatening to report my partner as a peado last night so they reported that as a separate crime as well.

I'm dreading tonight, wondering if they're going to start again

Just had the husband/ partner at the front door threatening me, I just said I'm not listening to this and shut the door.

What were they threatening you about?

Next time say if they knock on you'll have to call the police.

how horrible. As it has now escalated to threats, you really need police help. Don't worry about the ridiculous accusations. These shitheads will probably be well known to the cops anyway.

contact the landlord - but evicting pigs like this takes months at the best of times and will be a year now. MN has this stupid idea that landlords have control over tenant behaviour. They don't.

and 'started the problem by telling the boy off'??? so Mn would be happy to live next to people like this??

Because of the threat to report your DH as a paedophile, I would actually contact the police anyway. At least set on record what has occurred. They may be known to the police if they lived elsewhere in the area previously.

I would also contact their landlord about their mouse and nuisance.

Have you got any recording device outside ? Ring, cameras etc ? Are they renting ? Can you speak to the landlord ?